Posted by PartlyCloudy on November 28, 2010, at 8:40:40
In reply to Re: Timing of enforcement - Call for Deputies » Dr. Bob, posted by Solstice on November 27, 2010, at 23:47:20
> > I wish I could be here all the time. Well, I wish the board could be moderated all the time. :-)
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> > I do get too busy sometimes. More deputies would help. PartlyCloudy did consider returning, which I appreciated. Is it a job that would appeal to either of you?
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> I'm not sure if you're including me in the 'either of you,' but on the chance I was included, I would like to respond. Although I think it was worth the ole college try, I don't think the Deputy experiment turned out to work very well for you, for the community, or for the deputies.
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> As for serving in that position, I would not be able to act as an enforcer of a system that I believe is doing more harm than good. I realize that at the moment, it's all we've got.. but I think it is so imperative that the system be modified without delay.. that I fear participation would serve to just prolong a broken system. It needs to be addressed. You can't be everywhere. And forum crisis can't be scheduled to coincide with your availability. An overhaul of the method of implementing the civility guidelines is an urgent matter that deserves your time and focus.
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> > Of course there would be less need for administrators if posters helped each other stay civil.
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> This phrase has been historically provocative. It pushes on sore spots. I'm curious about why you used it? It has not worked in the past. I'd also like to call attention to the issue that there is NO clear and established structure or process for 'posters to help each other stay civil.' It might be a little like telling a 16 y/o to be sure and drive safely as you hand them the keys for the first time, without having ever taken them through a driver's ed course that includes on-the-road training.
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> I'd also like to suggest that there would be less need for administrators if you would invest the time and effort to work with folks here who want to help create a better system for upholding your civility guidelines.. or maybe there would be less need for administrators if the civility threshhold wasn't so impossibly low... or maybe there'd be less need for administrators if the blocking procedures had not caused so much injury to the whole community over such a long period of time.
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> I appreciate your presence and it appearing that you might be interested in modifying current methods. However, I think it is imperative that you engage in a meaningful way in reworking the current system. Otherwise, I for one will stop investing my time.
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>You know, I was a deputy - for a VERY short time. And I considered becoming one again. Unfortunately, I am not able to agree to the current guidelines for deputies as Dr Bob has them set up.
Yes, indeed, there is an elephant in the room. I am not going to name it, as it is not my place to do so - it's the administration's as they created it. If this elephant saw fit to leave the room and say, join the other elephants in their preserve in the African continent, India, or wherever else they have been corralled to live together, then perhaps there might be more active deputies.
I see emotionally charged situations escalate in intensity and feel badly that intervention does not happen. I don't feel that I have much power to have any influence over these occurrences as I don't often know the parties involved - at least one of the them will be a stranger (mostly) to me. Who am I to tell them what to do or how to behave? I have tried to interject myself in at least one thread that had been going awry in an attempt to wrest it back into civility and felt that I was not welcome in my comments.
And so I keep quiet and in the background. It's not my place to correct what I see going on.
PartlyCloudy
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