Posted by special_k on March 28, 2006, at 22:27:00
In reply to Re: Porn...what's the big deal? posible trigger » special_k, posted by verne on March 28, 2006, at 21:59:52
> I simply can't begin to understand this "objectification" you keep mentioning. I struggle to comprehend how two subjects can get together without an object and a verb in there somewhere. Even rad, crazy, wild, soulful, sex between two adults has an object in there somewhere. Two "subjects" never meet.
An object is something that can be manipulated for your own ends / goals / desires.
It is thought to be wrong to treat a person as an object because you aren't acknowledging / caring about / taking into account the point that they have their own ends / goals / desires that should be respected as yours should be.
So the idea of sex as an activity between two subjects is the idea of an encounter where both are sensitive to the preferences / desires of the other.
As opposed to an encounter where one person isn't even aware of how the other person feels... Or where one person doesn't really care about how the other person feels.
That is the idea.
Re porn...
You don't know anything about the person. What their likes and dislikes are. Whether they have a sense of humour or not. Whether they are a kind person or a person who is likely to stab you in the back. None of that is relevant none of that comes to bear. Or... You are left to project whatever you like onto them. Of course she likes whatever it is you think about doing with her! That is her purpose. Kind of like a living breathing walking blow up doll.
Ugh.
And porn...
Isnt' about love... Is it?
And you don't really know whether the woman is consenting re the pic / movie.Because once she has done it and sold it she can't take it back now...
Ugh.
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