Posted by special_k on March 28, 2006, at 21:19:03
In reply to Re: Porn...what's the big deal? posible trigger » verne, posted by verne on March 28, 2006, at 20:33:06
> If you're not trying to evoke shame why play the "proud of your daughter" card? If I'm not "proud", what am I?
Concerned. Concerned about her choice in life (assuming it was a choice). That was the other option I mentioned. I just kind of wondered whether it would be something that you would want for her. Or whether you would be concerned.
> You argue about how others view women as "sluts", and men as "studs" - I sure don't. Even my pornstar daughter doesn't.Ah. Maybe I get out to unsavory bars a little too much...
> Earlier you said that part of the problem with pornography is the viewer's intention, what he intended to do with it - j*rk off, or whatever. And that somehow, j*rking off, caused him to objectify, or view, women in a bad light in real life.Objectification. That is my biggest problem yes. If two adults consent to do that to each other then yeah ok none of my business. I kind of like to think that sexual activity can be an act between two subjects rather than two objects but I don't think most people see it that way...
I just wondered whether you would be concerned if your daughter was a porn star... If you might feel concerned about what people were thinking when looking at her picture etc. If you might feel concerned about how she might be treated IRL if people saw her on the street...
I don't know. Maybe not.
> Sometimes you argue about what I might be thinking, other times, about what others might think. I just don't think me j*rking off is up to debate.
Ok.
I guess it just makes me feel sad that sex isn't thought of as an activity between two subjects.
I feel sad about that.
But maybe 'cause I've been faced with a lot of objectification...
Which I find to be mostly oriented towards women (in practice)
Though some women seem to be learning to return the favour...I just feel sad in response is all.
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