Posted by janejj on November 27, 2001, at 15:08:39
In reply to Re: Why suicide????, posted by Fi on November 27, 2001, at 12:30:46
Some people would say that it is all part of natural selection or survival of the fittest.
Imagine a world where there were no drugs to help with symptoms of diseases or cures. People would die from things like diabetes, even the flu. People would die at birth from things that can now be prevented by intensive care. So eventually only the fittest would survive.
So imagine a world where antidepressants didn't exist. Depression is supposedly caused by a deficieny of certain chemicals in the brain, ie seratonin. This deficiency makes your brain drag up negative thoughts from the past, it makes you slow, tired and basically renders you unable to effectively function in society. This negativity feeds on itself and eventually you start getting suicidal thoughts. Parts of your brain have shut down and perhaps messages are being sent to your brain telling you to self destruct. So suicidal thoughts are just part of an illness, except that we can try and control them. Some one with terminal cancer has little hope as their body eventually shuts down, but depression can definately be helped.....even just by cognitive talking therapy some people can be cured as their brain is rewired to think positively.
Anyway good luck and take care, remember that its an illness that can be cured, so don't give up hope.
J xxx
I agree on this- its having the thoughts that sounds like its the problem. Certainly worth talking to a pdoc about (cognitive therapy can sometimes help deal with thoughts). Meanwhile, if just a little bit of your mind can remind you that the thoughts are part of your illness, not an accurate idea you will act on, this will reassure you a lot. Makes the suicidal thoughts less impressive, and less worrying. Just an idea.
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> Fi
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> > first off, welcome the board (im a 'newbie' too...well sorta).
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> > i can relate to a lot of what people are saying. ive walked out of classes (im the youngin) where i failed a test and felt like crying and killing myself. like others, ive toyed with the power of thought to kill myself. this might help you a little bit tho. it sounds like you have suicidal ideation, rather than suicidal intent. intent is dangerous, ideation is just scary and obnoxious. im still working on figuring out how to deal with these thoughts, but i think just venting and talking it about it has helped a lot. especially with people who can empathize. not much advice there, sorry
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> > Katey
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