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Re: More on Tryptophan- does illness affect efficacy? » raybakes

Posted by jasmineneroli on November 22, 2004, at 23:36:58

In reply to Re: More on Tryptophan- does illness affect efficacy? » jasmineneroli, posted by raybakes on November 22, 2004, at 13:53:07


> Sometimes feels like we're juggling nutrients, get one in the air, another crashes to the floor!

* Yes! That's certainly very true. I am guinea-pigging my poor body to the max. I have to say that, it (my body) and I, have been very patient with all the standard medical treatments thrown at us over the past 5 or so years, and I'm now trying to maintain patience with the "alternative" experiments!

> You do sound like you fitted in with that herpes abstract... although effective, worried about lysine and arginine and homocysteine.

* Agreed, stopped both Lysine & Arginine after 2 days. I really didn't think the whole thing through, before leaping into adding them. It was a sort of "one thing leads to another".

> Taking high dose arginine and lysine can raise homocysteine - lysine uses SAMe to make carnitine, and arginine uses SAMe to make creatine, both essential in energy production
>
> 'Carnitine biosynthesis is initiated by methylation of lysine'

*Didn't know about any of the above.
I have read that large doses of arginine for body-building purposes (since I'm in the industry now) to produce the big muscle "pump" from NO, has the effect of creating large free-radical production, thus requiring a larger use of anti-oxidants to maintain a good immune defence system.

It's pretty scary to realize how dangerous messing around with amino acid combinations can be. I had actually been surprised by the ill-health of some of the serious body-builders at my gym........considering these people were very into fitness!!! Of course, now I know that the "look" of fitness sometimes belies the reality!

Regarding SAM-E; I just discovered that it's now available OTC in Canada. I will look back at the threads concerning that supplement when I have time, in preparation of maybe using it as an adjunct to Tryptophan or as a replacement therapy, in the future.
So much to learn, so little time! Why, oh why, didn't I take chemistry in college?!!
Thanks, as always.
Jas


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