Posted by Dr. Bob on July 1, 2009, at 23:39:57
In reply to Re: block avoidance » rskontos, posted by Zeba on July 1, 2009, at 15:19:59
> I second bayleaf's respond. As if you are just enforcing someone's elses rules. Like you're a deputy.
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> rskFriends don't let friends drive drunk. If you don't let a friend drive drunk, do you feel you're just enforcing your state's drunk driving rules?
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> Im not sure fellow posters have the power to encourage people to act in such a way to avoid a block. And as you have no doubt guessed, in some cases it would not be seen as support by either fellow posters or the poster in question to encourage them to do something they find morally wrong to avoid a block.
IMO, posters do have the power to encourage. Though of course encouraging someone to do something doesn't always lead to them doing it.
I agree, if a poster is uncivil and feels it's morally wrong to interpret things more charitably, to apologize, to rephrase, or to refrain from addressing those they can't get along with, encouraging them to do so may be counterproductive. And blocking them may be best for the community.
> Or maybe people are afraid of being hurt themselves if they put themselves out that way.
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> Dinah> We don't have immunity if we try to help a poster not get blocked and it blows up in our face
That's an interesting point, should there be more tolerance of incivility if it's to try to help another poster not get blocked?
> Then to try and analyze us that we "want to feel powerless"
I doubt many people would say they want to feel powerless, but with power comes responsibility. So with powerlessness comes blamelessness. For example, regarding being an "enforcer".
> You want to make us accountable but not yourself.
I'm accountable for blocking (or not blocking) people. Posters are accountable for helping (or not helping) each other avoid blocks.
> We have no power Dr Bob. If we did the blocking formula would be changed. Period. You have it all.
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> rsk> Of course he has all the power to block or not.
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> I just would wish that others would not allow themselves to get worked up over Bob and his ways. He is who he is and from my perspective, he does not seem ammenable to changing his behavior in spite of the fact that he thinks posters should be amenable to changing their behavior.
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> ZebaIf the goal is fewer blocks, two alternative strategies are:
1. Try to convince me to change my behavior (stop blocking, change the formula, etc).
2. Try to convince other posters to change their behavior (interpret things more charitably, apologize, rephrase, refrain from addressing those they can't get along with, etc).
Which is more likely to lead to feeling powerless? Which is more likely to lead to the goal?
Bob
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