Posted by trouble on March 6, 2002, at 4:10:27
In reply to Re: How social is Psycho Babble Social? » kid_A, posted by Zo on March 5, 2002, at 23:34:33
Wow, the Jazzdog and Zo posts are thought-provoking, especially since one comes right after another and they both make so much sense.
I agree w/ Jazzdog's generous position, there's probably a lost seeker inside all of us, I personally have been a Jesus Person, hairy Feminist, and Punk Rocker, devoting many years to each permutation, and totally lived the life.
That need to belong to something larger than yourself leaves us vulnerable to exploitation, as Zo points out. My main problem has always been w/ the promulgation of one's ideology, I never understood why that would make me a better christian. We had to go out and witness every week and knock on doors and stuff, and I was never comfortable w/ that. But my pastor and congregation were compassionate people, they helped others that no one else gave a shit about, but the help included religious indoctrination, and these people could have cared less. But they faked it, of course, and that seemed to satisfy the leaders. It seemed all wrong to me. I would never trade the years I spent in the church, it was a community during a time I had none, and I learned the Bible backwards and forwards, and that will always stay w/me.
But that didn't hold a candle to the cult-like properties I found in academic feminism. It's unbelievable, the totality, sexism everywhere, every stimuli, internal and external filtered through identity politics, men ejected from classrooms, auditoriums and support groups, for no reason, just b/c of their sex. I saw young, smart and questing women destroyed by academic feminism, to the point of blowing their brains out, it's such a bleak and paralyzing worldview, it promotes "separatism", adherents are supposed to consider themselves elites, superior to the parent culture...very Jim Jones in my opinion. I tremble w/rage just thinking about it.
Punk is the most enduring of these three identities, it never pretended to be something other than what it was so I never went through the dissapointment and subsequent de-programming. I did then, and still do push my punk views on people, but as a joke or a test, not b/c I think it's imperative that I convert them.
Anyways, just late night reminiscences about those lost and searching times. Anybody else care to fess up?
trouble
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