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Posted by beardedLADY on January 7, 2003, at 16:21:29
How's your new regimen? I am a fat pig. Did I tell you about my weight watchers key chain? The keys just started falling off the chain a few weeks ago. I got it when I lost 10% of my weight (okay, 16 pounds, if you need to know). But I must have gained so much back that I'm under a 16-pound loss, so my key chain has broken.
And I'm sitting here with Harry Potter sheet cake from my daughter's fifth birthday yesterday. Tomorrow is Weight Watchers for the first time in three weeks, and I can't stop eating!
Help!
How's the Body by Jake thing going? I am desperate. I'd ask for some of what Alii has that has kept her from eating for a few days, but it would mean I'd have to be going through what she's going through, and I don't think I'm strong enough.
Meanwhile, my skinny husband fasted today. He made a NY resolution to fast one day a week. (He's sort of weird.)
Did you get my reply? Send that cover letter when you're ready.
Okay, time to finish the beer and get back to the cake. My god, what's wrong with me? Ugh!
(I'd do Atkins right away, but you're not allowed any alcohol!)
beardy
Posted by Alii on January 7, 2003, at 17:33:25
In reply to Body By Bookgurl--Oh, Bookie..., posted by beardedLADY on January 7, 2003, at 16:21:29
> How's your new regimen? I am a fat pig. Did I tell you about my weight watchers key chain? The keys just started falling off the chain a few weeks ago. I got it when I lost 10% of my weight (okay, 16 pounds, if you need to know). But I must have gained so much back that I'm under a 16-pound loss, so my key chain has broken.
>
> And I'm sitting here with Harry Potter sheet cake from my daughter's fifth birthday yesterday. Tomorrow is Weight Watchers for the first time in three weeks, and I can't stop eating!
>
> Help!
>
> How's the Body by Jake thing going? I am desperate. I'd ask for some of what Alii has that has kept her from eating for a few days, but it would mean I'd have to be going through what she's going through, and I don't think I'm strong enough.
>
> Meanwhile, my skinny husband fasted today. He made a NY resolution to fast one day a week. (He's sort of weird.)
>
> Did you get my reply? Send that cover letter when you're ready.
>
> Okay, time to finish the beer and get back to the cake. My god, what's wrong with me? Ugh!
>
> (I'd do Atkins right away, but you're not allowed any alcohol!)
>
> beardyBeardy,
Surely you can't be suggesting that you would choose to lose weight due to the inability to eat because of ptsd and panic symptoms?
Fasting for religious, personal, health, etc. reasons are fine for *some* individuals.
But the type of not eating for days that I go through usually comes from one of two types of things. The first is when my med dosages are changed....usually I end up quite physically ill and unable to keep anything down for a few days and drop a couple of pounds.
The second kind of not eating for days comes from stress, ptsd sypmtoms and panic. There isn't anything desirable about this weight loss or inability to eat.
I tried eating earlier today something simple to see if my body would accept anything but it wouldn't keep. So not eating not by choice but instead due to flareups in my diseases is a whole 'nother ball of wax than just saying hey I'll do a new year's fast and drop weight like there's no tomorrow.
So I admire anyone striving to better their health and improve their feelings about their body but I hope that everyone checks with their health care provider first before beginning any diet or exercise program.
Good luck with your 2003 WW. They are a good outfit. I have known many people who have benefitted from their programs over the years.
~Alii
Posted by kid a on January 7, 2003, at 17:58:28
In reply to Body By Bookgurl--Oh, Bookie..., posted by beardedLADY on January 7, 2003, at 16:21:29
>I'd ask for some of what Alii has that has kept her from eating for a few days, but it would mean I'd have to be going through what she's going through, and I don't think I'm strong enough.
I'm not sure what your angle you are coming from here... Lighthearted careless words, or just outright spite.
What your saying is basically equivalent to "gee... I'd like to go to Treblinka to loose some weight, but I don't think I could get down with that whole treated like animals thing, also I think I'm allergic to Zyklon-B"...
To say what you have when someone has obviously been to hell and back comes off as a little cruel to me.
You may not see those words in an ill light; but honestly I wouldn't be surprised if you didn't.
_michael.
Posted by beardedLADY on January 7, 2003, at 18:04:45
In reply to Mrs. beardedLADY, posted by Alii on January 7, 2003, at 17:33:25
> Surely you can't be suggesting that you would choose to lose weight due to the inability to eat because of ptsd and panic symptoms?
Surely I can't. And that's exactly what my paragraph said--"I'd ask for some of what Alii has that has kept her from eating for a few days, but it would mean I'd have to be going through what she's going through, and I don't think I'm strong enough."
> Fasting for religious, personal, health, etc. reasons are fine for *some* individuals.
I agree.
> There isn't anything desirable about this weight loss or inability to eat.
Indeed there's not. That's just what I said--that I wouldn't trade the misery for the weight loss. I wouldn't be strong enough to handle the stress that you're going through. I'm a wimp about things like that. I whine when I miss sleep.
> I tried eating earlier today something simple to see if my body would accept anything but it wouldn't keep. So not eating not by choice but instead due to flareups in my diseases is a whole 'nother ball of wax than just saying hey I'll do a new year's fast and drop weight like there's no tomorrow.
Yes, that's obvious--to me and to most people.
> So I admire anyone striving to better their health and improve their feelings about their body but I hope that everyone checks with their health care provider first before beginning any diet or exercise program.
I don't think I've ever checked with my doctor before I started exercising after a hiatus. I hope totally inactive people will follow your advice, though.
> Good luck with your 2003 WW. They are a good outfit. I have known many people who have benefitted from their programs over the years.
Yes, thank you. They've worked over the years. I don't think they are strict enough as far as insisting certain foods be eaten every day, but the very overweight seem to lose quickly. My twenty-pound loss has taken longer than most people's sixty-pound loss.
I'm sorry you misread my post. I would never say or imply that anxiety and total misery are great weight loss remedies and, in fact, said otherwise.
I hope you will be able to eat soon. I don't think I can tempt you with this Harry Potter sheet cake, but it's really delicious, and it's calling your name.
Oh, wait. It's calling mine. Sheesh. Better go answer it.
beardy
Posted by beardedLADY on January 7, 2003, at 18:24:29
In reply to BODY TO BODY --- JOB TO JOB » beardedLADY, posted by kid a on January 7, 2003, at 17:58:28
> >I'd ask for some of what Alii has that has kept her from eating for a few days, but it would mean I'd have to be going through what she's going through, and I don't think I'm strong enough.
>
> I'm not sure what your angle you are coming from here... Lighthearted careless words, or just outright spite.Yes, that's me. Spiteful, careless, cruel. I wonder whether you'd think this way under different circumstances.
> What your saying is basically equivalent to "gee... I'd like to go to Treblinka to loose some weight, but I don't think I could get down with that whole treated like animals thing, also I think I'm allergic to Zyklon-B"...That's obviously not what I'm saying. I was saying I was desperate in one sentence, but I was saying I wasn't wishing something bad to happen.
> To say what you have when someone has obviously been to hell and back comes off as a little cruel to me.
I'm sorry it looks cruel to you, but just about everything I say is going to look cruel to you. There's nothing I can do about that.
>
> You may not see those words in an ill light; but honestly I wouldn't be surprised if you didn't.Well, you should be surprised. I've never done anything cruel to you or to any of the "pb expats." Yet many of you are ready to pounce on any little misstep you might find.
I was hoping you guys would get a new hobby this year, rather than scrutinize my every word. But that's apparently not going to happen.
I hope you will one day see the good in me that you saw before whatever made you feel this way happened.
I have never been unkind to you or any of the expats. I wish you would extend me the same courtesy.
beardy
Posted by kid a on January 7, 2003, at 19:58:02
In reply to Apparently, mis-reading is common among friends. » kid a, posted by beardedLADY on January 7, 2003, at 18:24:29
miss b.l.i was commenting about your comment, i don't dislike you or hate you or whatever you think, i don't have enough time in my life for that.
i was defending a friend who has gone through hell in the past few weeks, in that aspect you can see how some words can hurt.
it's not about you at all, don't give yourself so much credit, i don't have a vendetta against you, nor is this the applicable forum to discuss any ill you have done to me...
like i have said, i could name it, yet you would deny any guilt whatsoever... it's not worth it to me to argue about.
best of luck to you.
Posted by Dinah on January 7, 2003, at 20:13:46
In reply to BODY TO BODY --- JOB TO JOB » beardedLADY, posted by kid a on January 7, 2003, at 17:58:28
> I'm not sure what your angle you are coming from here... Lighthearted careless words, or just outright spite.
> To say what you have when someone has obviously been to hell and back comes off as a little cruel to me.
>Dinah here, acting as deputy for Dr. Bob.
Michael, I realize that you were trying to help a friend, but please keep the civility guidelines in mind while doing so. Please be sensitive to the feelings of others, and try not to jump to conclusions about their motivations.
Here is a link to the civility FAQ's.
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#civil
Thanks,
Dinah
P.S. Of course, Dr. Bob has the final say in these matters and you are free to appeal to him. Followups should be on the Admin board.
Posted by Dinah on January 7, 2003, at 20:18:59
In reply to Apparently, mis-reading is common among friends. » kid a, posted by beardedLADY on January 7, 2003, at 18:24:29
>
> Yes, that's me. Spiteful, careless, cruel. I wonder whether you'd think this way under different circumstances.
>> I'm sorry it looks cruel to you, but just about everything I say is going to look cruel to you. There's nothing I can do about that.
> >Hi Beardy,
I realize that your feelings were hurt, but please try to keep the civility guidelines in mind even when you are feeling like others are not. Please try not to jump to conclusions about others motivations.
Followups should of course be directed to Admin.
And Dr. Bob may of course have a different view on all of this.
Thanks,
Dinah
Posted by kid a on January 7, 2003, at 20:21:43
In reply to Re: Please be civil » kid a, posted by Dinah on January 7, 2003, at 20:13:46
> Michael, I realize that you were trying to help a friend, but please keep the civility guidelines in mind while doing so. Please be sensitive to the feelings of others, and try not to jump to conclusions about their motivations.
Dinah, I try to write in the utmost tones of civility. There is no malice in my voice. No incivility, as you state. I don't write to hurt, I write to explain, to elucidate the darkness that is ones soul, something so fragile that mere words can break it.
I have no intention of dragging this to admin, its over as far as I am concerned. As a Buddhist, you learn to rise about such petty things.
my love.
Posted by Dinah on January 7, 2003, at 20:28:19
In reply to Re: Please be civil, posted by kid a on January 7, 2003, at 20:21:43
Dr. Bob is free to reinterpret things as he thinks fit, and I'd much rather let all this die until he comes along, if it's all the same to everyone.
I consider you all to be friends of mine, so I'd much rather not get administrative. :(
Dinah
Posted by Alii on January 7, 2003, at 20:38:48
In reply to Re: This thread, posted by Dinah on January 7, 2003, at 20:28:19
>> Dr. Bob is free to reinterpret things as he thinks fit, and I'd much rather let all this die until he comes along, if it's all the same to everyone.
>
>> I consider you all to be friends of mine, so I'd much rather not get administrative. :(
>
>> Dinah
Friends or not Dinah as a deputy it would appear you are appealing to the familiar nature you have with the people in this thread.How does that look to a new poster or lurker who isn't aware of the Please Be Civil warnings and redirecting of threads to PBA? I'm a bit uncomfortable with a deputy being so friendly about this whole administrative matter. (That isn't saying anything negative about you as a person Dinah but instead I'm talking about the role of deputy on these boards.)
I would rather that friendships aside this be dealt with in a third party manner as it seems that everyone involved here has taken it too personally.
Thoughtfully,
Alii
Posted by Dr. Bob on January 9, 2003, at 1:30:59
In reply to Re: Please be civil » kid a, posted by Dinah on January 7, 2003, at 20:13:46
> Followups should be on the Admin board.
Here's a link:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20021128/msgs/8744.html
Dinah, for helping out again,
Bob
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