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Posted by inja on May 12, 2006, at 10:53:30
i believe that i shared before regarding my own herbal usage. i prefer the smoke to morphine (as is prescribed to me daily for chronic pain due to "Failed Back Surgery").
that being said, it's difficult to find in my area, let alone a good quality. i was buying in large quantity to use over the harvest period when all sales are just about dried up. i don't smoke a lot; just enough to take the edge off of the pain where i can deal with it.
now the nervous nellie part..... i found a website where i can buy seeds from Amsterdam. not cheap, but definitely worth a try. i've never grown my own before, but found some seeds about a month or so ago, and tried to see if they would take root. well, by the golly by the gee, those little suckers came up. before i can put it in the vegetable garden, i have to make sure we'll not have yet another frost so they won't die.
the seeds i purchased are on their way. nervous nellie is about the purchase of said seeds and the delivery here in the US without getting into trouble.
#1, i don't want us (hubby and i) to get into trouble. #2, i hope they are good seeds that come up fairly quickly (the description of these particular seeds says that it is an "early harvest with a strong THC content) and last but not least i hope that i can grow my own, harvest the seeds for another grow period next time.
i've been doing a LOT of reading on the subject of growing your own, and it doesn't seem all that hard. but i don't have a green thumb either. hubby does - he could put a yardstick in the ground and it would sprout.
though we are in our late 40's and 50's, i am grateful to be married to someone who understands my pain relief needs and understands that i would rather do the herb than the morphine. plus he is unafraid of growing it in our garden. (but push come to shove, hubby said we can do it in the cellar with grow lights i guess)
also, because of our "stooopid" HMO scrip plan, my dr. has to switch me from Avinza (150 mgs at night) to MSContin. the Avinza is not covered and the cost is exhorbitant.
i've been reading on the MSContin as well, and i really don't like what i've been reading. it sort of freaks me out, because i don't want to be in "la-la land" - i just need pain relief.
anybody have experience with MSContin? my dr. said that i'd had it before, but due to a few small strokes (tia's and such), and it being such a long time ago (about 8 years she said) i have no memory of that.
any input would be appreciated.
thanks folks....
Posted by Larry Hoover on May 13, 2006, at 20:12:44
In reply to nervous nellie today.....herb, Avinza MSContin, posted by inja on May 12, 2006, at 10:53:30
> i believe that i shared before regarding my own herbal usage. i prefer the smoke to morphine (as is prescribed to me daily for chronic pain due to "Failed Back Surgery").
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> that being said, it's difficult to find in my area, let alone a good quality. i was buying in large quantity to use over the harvest period when all sales are just about dried up. i don't smoke a lot; just enough to take the edge off of the pain where i can deal with it.I'm Canadian, and I get high quality product, readily available, at a fair price. My preferred product is something that ends up being very much like milk chocolate....somehow it's made with cannabis butter rather than cocoa butter. I don't know the details, but one square of chocolate, twice a day....
> now the nervous nellie part..... i found a website where i can buy seeds from Amsterdam. not cheap, but definitely worth a try. i've never grown my own before, but found some seeds about a month or so ago, and tried to see if they would take root. well, by the golly by the gee, those little suckers came up. before i can put it in the vegetable garden, i have to make sure we'll not have yet another frost so they won't die.
>
> the seeds i purchased are on their way. nervous nellie is about the purchase of said seeds and the delivery here in the US without getting into trouble.
>
> #1, i don't want us (hubby and i) to get into trouble. #2, i hope they are good seeds that come up fairly quickly (the description of these particular seeds says that it is an "early harvest with a strong THC content) and last but not least i hope that i can grow my own, harvest the seeds for another grow period next time.
>
> i've been doing a LOT of reading on the subject of growing your own, and it doesn't seem all that hard. but i don't have a green thumb either. hubby does - he could put a yardstick in the ground and it would sprout.Let me put it to you simply.....they don't call it weed for nothing. Tell hubby not to spare the compost. I grew one plant where I had my compost heap the year before, still had about three bushels of compost there, plus whatever had got into the soil. Got over 3 lbs of top quality bud off one plant. Best of luck with the authorities.
> though we are in our late 40's and 50's, i am grateful to be married to someone who understands my pain relief needs and understands that i would rather do the herb than the morphine. plus he is unafraid of growing it in our garden. (but push come to shove, hubby said we can do it in the cellar with grow lights i guess)I need both the opiates and the cannabinoids. Without the latter, I could not manage the pain. Now I can. It's that simple.
> also, because of our "stooopid" HMO scrip plan, my dr. has to switch me from Avinza (150 mgs at night) to MSContin. the Avinza is not covered and the cost is exhorbitant.
>
> i've been reading on the MSContin as well, and i really don't like what i've been reading. it sort of freaks me out, because i don't want to be in "la-la land" - i just need pain relief.I think you've been reading biased information. It's the same active ingredient, in both cases.
> anybody have experience with MSContin? my dr. said that i'd had it before, but due to a few small strokes (tia's and such), and it being such a long time ago (about 8 years she said) i have no memory of that.
>
> any input would be appreciated.
>
> thanks folks....The only difference between MSContin and Avinza is that the latter is supposed to last for 24 hours. If the total number of mg morphine consumed per 24 hour period is the same, so ought to be the result. I can't vouch for the effects of MSContin, as I use OxyContin. It doesn't last the supposed 12 hour period, so my doctor prescribed it q 8 instead of q 12, i.e. 3 X daily instead of twice.
I really don't understand why you're concerned about the MSContin. If there's something in particular, maybe I can help?
Lar
Posted by inja on May 28, 2006, at 9:54:44
In reply to Re: nervous nellie today.....herb, Avinza MSContin » inja, posted by Larry Hoover on May 13, 2006, at 20:12:44
i am such a SNIT. i can't believe that i was SO STOOPID enough to try to make a transaction with a company in Amsterdamn. they got my money, and i got no honey.
g-damn, g-damn, g-damn! there's 100 bucks down the drain. 20 lousy seeds is ALL i asked for and paid for, but didn't get.
told you i was in a snit. holy ja-beepers. any suggestions from anyone regarding my dilemma? any info, support and feedback is MORE than welcome. it's gotta be better that what i am calling myself in my brain... cripes, i think if i HAD a brain, i'd be playin' with it.......
Posted by verne on May 28, 2006, at 23:41:43
In reply to rec'd pkg-contents GONE » Larry Hoover, posted by inja on May 28, 2006, at 9:54:44
If you paid for the transaction with a credit card you can do a credit card dispute or *chargeback*. I've had to do 3 in six years and it sometimes takes patience and perservance with the credit card bank. Just do everything in writing, keep copies, and keep after them.
I don't deal with European, Russian, or most businesses in foreign countries unless I can do the transaction through a reliable credit card payment processor that I trust. There's a lot of credit card fraud in Europe.
Don't some enthoherb shops in the US, sell seeds? I'm too afraid to try growing it so never really looked into it. I need to move to a pot-friendly state or country.
Some of the online *headshops* don't look all that trustworthy either. I almost bought what looked like a waterpipe (but called something different) from a Canadian company that looked allright but I chickened out. I'm pretty sure waterpipes or bongs are illegal - at least on the federal level.
I usually google a business and check out sites like epinions.com or ripoffreports.com before I buy. Or check out feedback at related sites - in this case, sites that support pot use. Perhaps, somebody there could advise you where to shop.
And finally, you can probably complain to the equivalent of the Better Business Bureau in Holland. Varies from country to country and some will actually try to help.
Verne
Posted by Larry Hoover on May 29, 2006, at 8:57:01
In reply to rec'd pkg-contents GONE » Larry Hoover, posted by inja on May 28, 2006, at 9:54:44
> i am such a SNIT. i can't believe that i was SO STOOPID enough to try to make a transaction with a company in Amsterdamn. they got my money, and i got no honey.
>
> g-damn, g-damn, g-damn! there's 100 bucks down the drain. 20 lousy seeds is ALL i asked for and paid for, but didn't get.
>
> told you i was in a snit. holy ja-beepers. any suggestions from anyone regarding my dilemma? any info, support and feedback is MORE than welcome. it's gotta be better that what i am calling myself in my brain... cripes, i think if i HAD a brain, i'd be playin' with it.......
If the package was received, and the contents were missing, I'd be looking to Uncle Sam for the explanation. I mean, if the contents were interdicted, that's that. Try that again, and I bet you they let the seeds get delivered, and watch you take possession. Federal crime. Federal time.That's what I think is or may be wrong with this picture. And, until you know otherwise, I would give things a sober second thought.
Lar
Posted by Larry Hoover on May 29, 2006, at 9:06:18
In reply to Re: rec'd pkg-contents GONE » inja, posted by verne on May 28, 2006, at 23:41:43
> If you paid for the transaction with a credit card you can do a credit card dispute or *chargeback*. I've had to do 3 in six years and it sometimes takes patience and perservance with the credit card bank. Just do everything in writing, keep copies, and keep after them.
Yes, a chargeback may be successful. But for a cash or cash-like transaction, the deal is completed upon shipping the goods, under the law. Not upon receipt of the goods, upon shipping them.
> I don't deal with European, Russian, or most businesses in foreign countries unless I can do the transaction through a reliable credit card payment processor that I trust. There's a lot of credit card fraud in Europe.
I think we're talking about something else here, though, as I understand it that a package was received. Just that it was empty.
> Don't some enthoherb shops in the US, sell seeds? I'm too afraid to try growing it so never really looked into it. I need to move to a pot-friendly state or country.There has recently been a substantial and significant crack down on cannabis seeds. In fact, a Canadian businessman named Mark Emory has recently been arrested on a U.S. federal warrant, and they are seeking his extradition to the United States. Mr. Emory did send some seeds to the U.S., but that is not a crime in Canada. Nonetheless, he faces 20 years in a federal prison in the United States for something he didn't literally do.
> Some of the online *headshops* don't look all that trustworthy either. I almost bought what looked like a waterpipe (but called something different) from a Canadian company that looked allright but I chickened out. I'm pretty sure waterpipes or bongs are illegal - at least on the federal level.You made the right call, verne. Don't ship paraphenalia across so much as a state line, let alone a national border. If you can't get what you need locally, move. Or go and get the stuff yourself. Don't leave a paper trail.
> I usually google a business and check out sites like epinions.com or ripoffreports.com before I buy. Or check out feedback at related sites - in this case, sites that support pot use. Perhaps, somebody there could advise you where to shop.That is a good idea. There has been a substantial shake up/shake down in the system, over the last six months. It is not now like it was before. The War on Drugs mentality is increasing its vigilance. It is so wrong-headed, I don't know where to begin.
> And finally, you can probably complain to the equivalent of the Better Business Bureau in Holland. Varies from country to country and some will actually try to help.
>
> VerneIf I have the details correct, inja got a legal completion of the transaction. I simply believe Uncle Sam took the seeds. That liability is on the purchaser.
Lar
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