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Posted by galkeepinon on October 28, 2003, at 0:45:43
Bob, I have spent the last few hours crying so hard I can barely see the screen. I looked up suicide online.
Are you waiting for me to just leave???????
Why is everyone ganging up on me???????
I know that a poster a while back committed suicide, and I would hate that to happen again.I can't help but not let this all affect me, so I haven't posted.
I can't believe how much hate people have for me. I feel like if I even try to defend myself is just pointless now.
What have I done recently that makes me look like such a bad person?????? I haven't cussed, I haven't emailed anyone. I understand how others feel of course I do. I just don't understand why the people can't see that 'wow thank god kristen IS still alive, and not dead. I guess it's all relative.
I have been nothing but supportive and positive, doesn't that mean anything??????Honestly, are you just waiting until it blows over in hopes that I will leave????
I can see you are somewhat 'tight' with Larry who I know you would obviously choose him to stay over me, but that's beside the point. Is it me against them now??????
I am emotionally attached to this board for support. I really don't want the people who are mad at me to know if I do commit suicide or not.It affecting me greatly!!!! and I don't know what I will do...
but it's ok, you have your hands very full at the moment, I understand.
I just don't want to add anymore pressure on to you, I am beside myself and in a very bad spot about all this. My own fault I guess.
I'm serious Bob, I need to know where YOU stand on all this?
Take care.
Thanks and goodnight,
Kristen
Posted by galkeepinon on October 28, 2003, at 1:21:21
In reply to My email to Bob 10:40pm PST, posted by galkeepinon on October 28, 2003, at 0:45:43
IM SO DEVASTATED I CANT BLIEVE IT WOLD MATTER IF I STYED ALIVE TOO MUCH TOOO OVERWHELMING AB=ND PEOPLWHO DON扵 EVEN KNOW ME WANT ME DEAD DON THEY SEE THAT I AM LIKE THEM WANTING SUPPORT, AND SOME KIND OF HELP AND COMRADE? I MUST BE A REALLY TERRIBLE PERSON TO HAV
Posted by Tabitha on October 28, 2003, at 1:36:42
In reply to My email to Bob 10:40pm PST, posted by galkeepinon on October 28, 2003, at 0:45:43
If posting here is making you suicidal, perhaps it's time to find another way to get support. I don't think this post is going to help your case much-- it comes across like emotional blackmail. It is as if you are saying 'Everyone stop confronting me, and if you don't, I'm going to kill myself.' Some people may get upset and sympathize with you, but others are going to resent being manipulated with the same tactics as before.
Posted by galkeepinon on October 28, 2003, at 1:49:53
In reply to Re: My email to Bob 10:40pm PST, posted by Tabitha on October 28, 2003, at 1:36:42
manipulated?! you are soooooooo wayoff base this time. think whatever youwnt tabitha and please don't post to me anymore
bye i know the "few" people who want to seeme dead and posting here isn't whats making me suicidal, its what you all are saying the lies, everything im not fighting anymore we all have problems and this is NOT like before you want to ask my mom then ask her im sure someone can find out where i live and how ,much pain the words have hurt me, me posting has nothing to do with my feelings it what has been said aboutme, maybe someday th epeople who are so bitter and unfirgiving will realize this isn't a game
don't believe my post? so be it
thank you so much for understanding. have you ever waled in my hoes? Then please don't assume things about me I'veprovedmyself and I dopn't need to prove myself any monger. there is NO case "tabitha" just a bunch of HATE and I don't deserve it the words, everything so if y'alll are thinking GOOD we got to her and made her think about leaving" your sadly mistaken.
PLease think about words you sayto people you never know how it will worsen the condition.......
Guess I'm just human sorry for feeling
If you only knew but yet no one needs to know
if the people who despiseme so much, and wanted to make me feel so sub human guess what you suceeded are you happy now?nope I dont have feelings like you nope i haven't had anyproblems like you so why did i come here.
so off base with this one.
goodnight im not responding to any negative psosts about me or to me so have fun.
best wishes to everyone, and god bless
for now...
Posted by ace on October 28, 2003, at 1:53:37
In reply to My email to Bob 10:40pm PST, posted by galkeepinon on October 28, 2003, at 0:45:43
> Bob, I have spent the last few hours crying so hard I can barely see the screen. I looked up suicide online.
> Are you waiting for me to just leave???????
> Why is everyone ganging up on me???????
> I know that a poster a while back committed suicide, and I would hate that to happen again.Who committed suicide? How can you be sure?
> I can't help but not let this all affect me, so I haven't posted.
> I can't believe how much hate people have for me. I feel like if I even try to defend myself is just pointless now.What have you done wrong?
> What have I done recently that makes me look like such a bad person?????? I haven't cussed, I haven't emailed anyone. I understand how others feel of course I do. I just don't understand why the people can't see that 'wow thank god kristen IS still alive, and not dead. I guess it's all relative.
> I have been nothing but supportive and positive, doesn't that mean anything??????Absolutely. But I don't know what you did. However, we can't be truly happy until we forgive others.
> Honestly, are you just waiting until it blows over in hopes that I will leave????
>
> I can see you are somewhat 'tight' with Larry who I know you would obviously choose him to stay over me, but that's beside the point. Is it me against them now??????
>
>
> I am emotionally attached to this board for support. I really don't want the people who are mad at me to know if I do commit suicide or not.
>
> It affecting me greatly!!!! and I don't know what I will do...
> but it's ok, you have your hands very full at the moment, I understand.
> I just don't want to add anymore pressure on to you, I am beside myself and in a very bad spot about all this. My own fault I guess.
> I'm serious Bob, I need to know where YOU stand on all this?
> Take care.
> Thanks and goodnight,
> Kristen
Settle down! What happened to make you so upset..don't get so involved with your own emotions. Whatever the case, if you have done something wrong and sincerely apologize for it I'm sure people will forgive you. If not, what else can you do?Is it you who faked a suicide? I'm not sure...
If so, yeah you made a mistake, a preety bad one, but we must move on in life. To those people who are very angry maybe if you email them personally. I think most people on this board are preety cool. Besides you might have been an a very bad emotional way when you did your wrongdoing...
But I'm not even sure what you did wrong!
Whatever the case, take care,
Ace.
Posted by sb417 on October 28, 2003, at 2:46:49
In reply to Re: My email to Bob 10:40pm PST, posted by Tabitha on October 28, 2003, at 1:36:42
If someone is truly in crisis, Dr. Bob advises that you get help in person. Dr. Bob does not function as your psychiatrist here. Very few, if any, of the posters are physicians. If you have an emergency, go to the Emergency Room and/or call your own doctor.
Posted by sb417 on October 28, 2003, at 3:59:08
In reply to Re: My email to Bob 10:40pm PST, posted by Tabitha on October 28, 2003, at 1:36:42
I am one who deeply resents being manipulated YET AGAIN by the same person who, for nearly three-quarters of a year, has attempted to turn nearly every thread into her own private cause celebre, and to turn Psychobabble upside down and inside out, to fit her supremely narcissistic needs. This board does NOT revolve around the poster in question. Dr. Bob, it is time for you to intervene on behalf of the majority of posters here. This disruption has gone on long enough. NO ONE is benefiting from it, and it is not conducive to anyone's mental health. If she is in crisis, she should go to an Emergency Room or call her physician. If she is looking for peer group support, then perhaps, in her present condition, VERY STRICTLY supervised, in-person group therapy would be more beneficial for her than an Internet group.
Posted by Elle2021 on October 28, 2003, at 4:01:39
In reply to My email to Bob 10:40pm PST, posted by galkeepinon on October 28, 2003, at 0:45:43
Dear Galkeepinon,
Are you Borderline Personality Disorder? I am, and to me, your posts screams out red flags. I completely sympathize with you. I know how it feels when you are in such pain and it feels like no one can understand the depths of it. I hope you don't decide to take your own life. I don't hate you, and I certainly don't want you to leave the message boards. I think you are really truly a wonderful person. I have had days like this, so I know the feeling. Please keep me updated, I will pray for you. Bless you.
Love, Elle> Bob, I have spent the last few hours crying so hard I can barely see the screen. I looked up suicide online.
> Are you waiting for me to just leave???????
> Why is everyone ganging up on me???????
> I know that a poster a while back committed suicide, and I would hate that to happen again.
>
> I can't help but not let this all affect me, so I haven't posted.
> I can't believe how much hate people have for me. I feel like if I even try to defend myself is just pointless now.
> What have I done recently that makes me look like such a bad person?????? I haven't cussed, I haven't emailed anyone. I understand how others feel of course I do. I just don't understand why the people can't see that 'wow thank god kristen IS still alive, and not dead. I guess it's all relative.
> I have been nothing but supportive and positive, doesn't that mean anything??????
>
> Honestly, are you just waiting until it blows over in hopes that I will leave????
>
> I can see you are somewhat 'tight' with Larry who I know you would obviously choose him to stay over me, but that's beside the point. Is it me against them now??????
>
>
> I am emotionally attached to this board for support. I really don't want the people who are mad at me to know if I do commit suicide or not.
>
> It affecting me greatly!!!! and I don't know what I will do...
> but it's ok, you have your hands very full at the moment, I understand.
> I just don't want to add anymore pressure on to you, I am beside myself and in a very bad spot about all this. My own fault I guess.
> I'm serious Bob, I need to know where YOU stand on all this?
> Take care.
> Thanks and goodnight,
> Kristen
>
>
Posted by Elle2021 on October 28, 2003, at 4:04:50
In reply to Dr. Bob -, posted by sb417 on October 28, 2003, at 3:59:08
I don't think she is purposely intending to manipulate anyone. It seems to me that she is genuinely reaching out for help in the only way she knows how. I know sometimes we feel like we are at the end of our ropes, but lets try to be understanding, we are all in our own form of pain.
Elle
Posted by Larry Hoover on October 28, 2003, at 7:37:00
In reply to My email to Bob 10:40pm PST, posted by galkeepinon on October 28, 2003, at 0:45:43
> I can't believe how much hate people have for me.
Speaking for myself, I don't hate you. I hate what you did. I really hate what you did.
'At that time, I was emotionally raped. My trust and faith that my boundaries would be inviolate has been stolen from me. I will never forget what happened, and the pain is with me still. It will not heal. I am scarred by it. I am forever changed by those events, and I cannot go back to 'before'. As they say in legal circles, "You can't unring the bell." '
> I feel like if I even try to defend myself is just pointless now.
It would be pointless to defend yourself, I agree, but not for the reason that you think. If you defend yourself, it will feel like excuses. I want you to listen to *me*. You spoke of making amends. This is part of making an amend, listening to the person(s) affected by your behaviour. It is both part of *my* healing, and of *your* gaining any forgiveness that might ever come your way.
You may not have foreseen the effects of what you did, but this is but one effect.
> What have I done recently that makes me look like such a bad person?????? I haven't cussed, I haven't emailed anyone.
That's better than the alternative, but it doesn't address the prior behaviour itself.
> I understand how others feel of course I do. I just don't understand why the people can't see that 'wow thank god kristen IS still alive, and not dead.
What in anything I have said would make you feel that I am not grateful for that?
> I guess it's all relative.
> I have been nothing but supportive and positive, doesn't that mean anything??????Yes.
> Honestly, are you just waiting until it blows over in hopes that I will leave????
What blows over? This is still about April. Big events have big "footprints" in time. Whether you leave, or not, is your decision, and should be decided independent of what anybody else thinks.
> I can see you are somewhat 'tight' with Larry who I know you would obviously choose him to stay over me, but that's beside the point.That statement is both inappropriate, and actually contrary to the facts. If anyone here has received preferential treatment, it is not me. I can't get Bob to follow his own rules. You, however, have convinced him to change them in your favour.
> Is it me against them now??????
My present concern is solely the rules, and administration thereof. It is not about you, although your behaviour precipitated the dispute itself.
> I am emotionally attached to this board for support. I really don't want the people who are mad at me to know if I do commit suicide or not.
I know you're feeling hurt. Take a time out, or seek real help in real life. We cannot help you, literally, with the care you may need.
> It affecting me greatly!!!! and I don't know what I will do...
> but it's ok, you have your hands very full at the moment, I understand.
> I just don't want to add anymore pressure on to you, I am beside myself and in a very bad spot about all this. My own fault I guess.
> I'm serious Bob, I need to know where YOU stand on all this?
> Take care.
> Thanks and goodnight,
> KristenI hope you feel better in the morning.
Lar
Posted by madwand on October 28, 2003, at 7:37:41
In reply to My email to Bob 10:40pm PST, posted by galkeepinon on October 28, 2003, at 0:45:43
Posted by Emme on October 28, 2003, at 7:43:12
In reply to My email to Bob 10:40pm PST, posted by galkeepinon on October 28, 2003, at 0:45:43
Kristen,
No one wants you dead. It *is* good that you are still alive.
In your distress you seem to me to be generalizing about the whole board and what's going on is not so black and white. It's a mixed bag. I can't speak for everyone, but I know I and several others don't hate you. A number of people are understandably very angry and. Some may stay permanently angry. Some don't sound so angry to me. There are people happy to have you here. I think you need to give it time, ride out the hard parts as best you can, and earn back more trust bit by bit. I am on my guard, but I do see that you've been trying to be suportive and I'd be glad if you are able to keep working in that vein.
What concerns me at the moment is that your post sounds radically different from the other Galkeepinon posts I've been seeing recently. It's easier said than done, but please take a step back, take many deep breaths and try to focus on what's been going well. You're obviously hurting a lot and your posts indicates to me that you are contemplating suicide. At the moment you need help closer to home. Please use the suicide online service if you need to. Go to the ER if you need to. Hang on tight through your current crisis and resume being a supportive member.
Emme
Posted by Dr. Bob on October 28, 2003, at 8:17:34
In reply to Re: My email to Bob 10:40pm PST galkeepinon, posted by Larry Hoover on October 28, 2003, at 7:37:00
> Why is everyone ganging up on me???????
> PEOPLWHO DON扵 EVEN KNOW ME WANT ME DEAD
>
> Kristen> this post ... comes across like emotional blackmail.
>
> Tabitha> I am one who deeply resents being manipulated YET AGAIN by the same person who, for nearly three-quarters of a year, has attempted to turn nearly every thread into her own private cause celebre, and to turn Psychobabble upside down and inside out, to fit her supremely narcissistic needs.
>
> sb417> I hate what you did. I really hate what you did.
>
> LarPlease be sensitive to the feelings of others and don't jump to conclusions about them, post anything that could lead them to feel accused or put down, or exaggerate or overgeneralize. Please?
Thanks,
Bob
Posted by Larry Hoover on October 28, 2003, at 8:40:38
In reply to Re: please be civil galkeepinon Tabitha sb41 Larry Hoover, posted by Dr. Bob on October 28, 2003, at 8:17:34
> > I hate what you did. I really hate what you did.
> >
> > Lar
>
> Please be sensitive to the feelings of others and don't jump to conclusions about them, post anything that could lead them to feel accused or put down, or exaggerate or overgeneralize. Please?
>
> Thanks,
>
> BobI used I statements, and I wasn't exaggerating. More confusion.
Lar
Posted by madwand on October 28, 2003, at 8:44:11
In reply to Re: please be civil Dr. Bob, posted by Larry Hoover on October 28, 2003, at 8:40:38
I am confused too. I would think that "I hate you" would be uncivil but "I hate what you did" would not be. The latter makes a definite point of distinguish between the *behavior* and the *person*.
Michael
Posted by Dinah on October 28, 2003, at 8:46:51
In reply to --------------------------------------, posted by galkeepinon on October 28, 2003, at 1:21:21
Kristen, I've had moments where I've written posts very like that one. And one shining moment where only the fate of providence kept me from sending one... well, it wouldn't have been pretty, and I'm grateful to providence that the site was down.
I understand what it is to feel this upset by the board, and what has helped for me is to get help in person. I stepped away from the computer and called my therapist. Do you have a therapist you can call?
I've also had friends who could express their concerns for me. To tell me that I seemed really brittle and that I needed to be careful.
But I *do* know what it feels like to cry over the computer keyboard and shake so badly I can't type.
You need to call your therapist or psychiatrist, Kristen. There's nothing that Dr. Bob can say that will make it all better.
I understand that you're hurting. I understood that last time too. This is a good time to make different choices. Call your therapist.
Posted by Dinah on October 28, 2003, at 8:58:15
In reply to Re: -------------------------------------- galkeepinon, posted by Dinah on October 28, 2003, at 8:46:51
I am *waaay* too self disclosing sometimes. I must talk to my therapist about that today.
Posted by Dinah on October 28, 2003, at 9:12:01
In reply to Re: please be civil (also a bit confused), posted by madwand on October 28, 2003, at 8:44:11
Ditto??? What gives, Dr. Bob?
Posted by fallsfall on October 28, 2003, at 9:12:37
In reply to Re: Dr. Bob - sb417, posted by Elle2021 on October 28, 2003, at 4:04:50
This post is written to Kristen (when I say "you", I mean Kristen), but I'm hoping that other posters will read it and try to understand what I am trying to say...
I hear very clearly that you are in a lot of pain. I wish that I (or anyone else) could wave a magic wand and make that pain go away for you. I wish that I could offer you lots of assistance and support, but I am limited in what I can do. I will do what I can.
In therapy right now, I am working on something that my also be applicable for you. I am finding that it is often true that my therapist will say something to me, but what I hear and understand is not what he meant. He thinks something and then translates that into words. I hear the words, but when I translate them into thought I end up with different thoughts than he started out with. This happens with EVERYONE ALL the time. Most of the time, though, the thoughts are close enough so that there isn't a real problem. Unfortunately for me (and perhaps you?) my translations are colored (distorted) by things that I learned as I was growing up. Can you believe that it could be possible that you might hear (understand) things that other people might not mean? And that they might hear (understand) things that you don't mean? For instance, if I ask you to pick up a red crayon, you might pick up a pink one (because pink is a kind of red). I might think that you picked up a maroon crayon (that's my favorite color), and suggest that you use your crayon to color the bricks in the picture. You would then look at me like I have two heads because noone would color bricks pink. We both have made valid translations (red-pink and red-maroon), but we didn't make the SAME translation.
Let's look at a sentance in your post:
"I know that a poster a while back committed suicide, and I would hate that to happen again."Let me try to guess what you might have meant by this sentance, and then I'll tell you how another person might have interpreted it. If we can just agree that there may be misunderstandings, (and that it might be possible to clear up the misunderstandings) I think that some people (including me and hopefully you) might not feel as anxious as they do now.
You said "I would hate for that (a suicide) to happen again". I think that you could mean (and I would like to know if I am guessing right) that you wish that no one on this board would ever commit suicide again. That you hope that something (you/we don't know what) can be done so that no one feels that they have no other options. And I believe, since you are a poster on this board, that you hope that you will not commit suicide. But I also think that you are scared that you might not be able to find that something (the thing that we don't know what it is yet) that would let you see that you have other options. Am I close? If I'm not, then we can talk about what I'm getting wrong so that we can understand each other. I want to understand your THOUGHT.
It is important for you, also, to realize that other people could interpret that sentance differently. Let's pretend that there is a poster named "Alphonse" (this person does not really exist - I just made him up, and I really like the name Alphonse. Is anyone here really named Alphonse?), but I just want you to see that Alphonse could REASONABLY interpret the sentance differently that what I am guessing you meant.
The two previous sentances have 7 exclaimation marks at the ends:
"Are you waiting for me to just leave???????
Why is everyone ganging up on me???????"
Alphonse COULD reasonably interpret these sentances to mean that you are very confused and feeling a little (or lot) bit desperate. If you were just "wondering" (rather than confused or desperate) Alphonse might expect you to use only 1 exclaimation mark. So Alphonse believes that you are feeling desperate (remember, this is just what Alphonse believes - it may have not be the way you are feeling at all - Alphonse could be misinterpreting what you are saying).Just above there you said:
"I looked up suicide online"Let's say that Alphonse believes that being desperate could make it so that a person might not be able to see that they have many options (that's kind of what desperate means to me - that I am feeling like I don't have any good choices, that I'm going to have to choose something that I don't like). So if Alphonse believes that you are desperate and you are researching the option of suicide, Alphonse could believe that suicide might be one of the few options that you are considering. Can you see how it would be reasonable for Alphonse to THINK that this is what you meant (even if it isn't really what you meant at all)?
Then Alphonse reads:
"I know that a poster a while back committed suicide, and I would hate that to happen again"Alphonse might believe from this that you believe that it is possible for posters to commit suicide (because you know that it has happened in the past). The next phrase "and I would hate that to happen again" COULD be interpreted by Alphonse to be "and I would hate that to happen again, BUT IT MIGHT". Even if this is not what you intended the sentance to mean, do you see how Alphonse could reasonably get that meaning from the sentance you wrote? So now Alponse thinks that you are desperate, one of your few options is suicide, and that you think that the suicide of a poster is possible. Alphonse might very well think that this means that you think it is possible that you would commit suicide. Until he read your post, Alphonse wasn't thinking that ANYONE was going to commit suicide, but now he thinks that you are considering it. Do you see how Alphonse could believe that you are threatening to commit suicide (even if this is not your intent at all)? That he might think that you believe that it is possible that you would commit suicide?
So, if my interpretation of what you were thinking is right (that you really want something to happen so that suicide is NOT your only option), and if Alphonse is thinking that suicide is a real option for you, then the two of you are not thinking alike at all! But both of the interpretations are REASONABLE based on the words that you wrote.
I know that I am having a really hard time with my therapist right now because he says something and means one thing, but I interpret it to mean something else (like I think that he's mad at me, or thinks I'm stupid). After a lot of effort, we are (just barely) getting to the point where I am looking at what I am hearing and trying to let him know how I am interpreting it. At which point he looks at me like I have two heads and says "Where did you get that? That's not what I said at all!", and I sigh and say "But that's what I HEARD!". We are starting now to go back to the words that he said, and many times now (not always...) he can explain to me what he meant to say and I can see how it is different from what I heard. I can also see how the same words can be interpreted in the two different ways. It's like he says it from HIS point of view, but I hear it from MINE. What I'm trying to learn to do, and I'm not good at it yet at all, is to hear it from HIS point of view. To hear what he meant me to hear, rather than what my life so far would interpret his words to mean.
Does this make any sense? This long winded post is hoping that both you, Kristen, and others who are reading your posts might see that it is possible that what they interpret from your words may not be what you mean, and what you interpret from their words may not be what they mean. I am thinking that BOTH sides are making incorrect assumptions about what the "other" side means.
If you and other posters think that this might be true, then let's try to take a deep breath, back up and see if we can't have a better understanding of each other.
I think that a big part of the problem is that when you are on the internet you lose a lot of information - body language, voice inflection, pauses or timing or rhythm. Those pieces of information make it much easier to understand what the other person MEANS. When you just have the black and white words it is really easy to misinterpret.
I guess that, at this point, what I would be really happy with would be if EVERYONE on this board could agree that it is POSSIBLE that ANY ONE, OR ALL OF US could be misinterpreting what someone else is saying. And perhaps that other person isn't the ogre that you think they are.
Kristen, I don't think you are an ogre. And I don't think that the posters who are angry at you are ogres either. I just think that there are different viewpoints and that there is a lot of miscommunication.
Posted by fallsfall on October 28, 2003, at 9:22:15
In reply to Re: Well, now I feel stupid and exposed. :(, posted by Dinah on October 28, 2003, at 8:58:15
I don't see why you think that was too disclosing. Just curious.
Posted by Dinah on October 28, 2003, at 9:30:48
In reply to Re: Well, now I feel stupid and exposed. :( Dinah, posted by fallsfall on October 28, 2003, at 9:22:15
I'd really rather not talk about those times on board, they bring up a lot of painful memories. And to discover that I made myself vulnerable for nothing, on a mistaken assumption, is doubly painful.
And I'd really rather not talk about it on the board. I shouldn't have made that post either (or this one either). I think I'll just go have a good cry now. I'm stepping away from the computer (which isn't even mine).
Posted by Susan J on October 28, 2003, at 9:31:21
In reply to Re: Well, now I feel stupid and exposed. :(, posted by Dinah on October 28, 2003, at 8:58:15
Hi, Dinah,
> I am *waaay* too self disclosing sometimes. I must talk to my therapist about that today.
>>I personally don't think you disclosed anything bad. Perhaps something in that is embarassing to you. I dunno. But I think that sharing your personal experiences is great and supportive, and I also *really* liked your line about people now have the opportunity to make different choices....
Excellent. You're very helpful, Dinah, even if you don't like that you were open about stuff... :-)
Susan
Posted by NikkiT2 on October 28, 2003, at 9:33:50
In reply to Re: Well, now I feel stupid and exposed. :( Dinah, posted by fallsfall on October 28, 2003, at 9:22:15
If you would like me to be totally open and honest about my feelings, I will be. But I don't feel hate. yes, I feel anger, but not hate.
I don't wish anyone dead. I haven't tried to take my life since April by the way.. and I hope to never try again.
If you would like the reasons for my anger spelled out, just let me know.
Posted by madwand on October 28, 2003, at 9:58:30
In reply to Communication, posted by fallsfall on October 28, 2003, at 9:12:37
Posted by madwand on October 28, 2003, at 9:59:42
In reply to Communication, posted by fallsfall on October 28, 2003, at 9:12:37
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