Posted by alexandra_k on March 27, 2015, at 21:09:29
In reply to population vs individuals, posted by alexandra_k on March 27, 2015, at 20:45:49
there's this ronnie coleman quote (guy was a bodybuilder) something about how 'everyone wants to be a bodybuilder - but nobody wants to lift no heavy *ss weights'.
and the idea of that... that people SAY they want to be a bodybuilder... but they have an odd view of what it is to be a bodybuilder. they just focus on the superficial thing of physical appearance.
but what it is to be a bodybuilder is to have amazing discipline when it comes to your body... and your mind, too. determination to force your body to do something that every fiber of it screams out against. over and over. to eat far more than one feels like when one is growing it... to eat far less than one feels like when one is cutting for a competiton... lifting weights... is the cornerstone or foundation of it. anyone who says they want to be a bodybuilder but doesn't... want to lift heavy-*ss weights... simply doesn't understand what it is to be a bodybuilder.
or... the case philosophers like 'someone who says that they want to get married... but who repeatedly doesn't get married, despite every opportunity, really does not want to get married'.
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and so... we have a community. and the community says they want a doctor. they might even pick which kid they want. like how the oldest will be the speaker, or whatever. so the community wants a doctor. does the community want to make sure that the kid has the books for school? does the community want to encourage the kid to read - or just to tell the kid repeatedly that reading is stupid and people who read are stupid? does the community want to give the kid a quiet place to do their homework? the answer to all this is: hells no! the community doesn't know what a doctor is... mmm hmmm...
(there is some sense of someone focused on PERSONS. this seems to be distinctive of medicine... but that's simply... inconsistent... with the whole communalism / sacrifice the individual for the good of the group thing y'all had going before...)
perhaps things will sort themselves out in a few generations...
mostly... population health seems to be... some sort of... (and i really really hate this) 'education' (not really) for those kids who are going to go back to those communities... it's focused on teaching them that if their community had a GP then equity would dictate 10 minute consultations - so they simply can't have the level of GP consultation (for free or cheap) that the rich people have in the city. focus on 'healthcare' which is about allied health. bait and switch for a doctor...
I don't entirely understand the point of GP's... I guess i never really thought of them as luxury services before... But I'm starting to see...
Wouldn't it be great if people who looked after themselves got better healthcare? But equity, again...
I don't entirely understand why we don't face up to the fact that a bunch of people out there seem to... Want to die, really. Rather than keep on. I mean.. . Everyone knows smoking will kill them, now. That's why they smoke duh. Lots of people really are that unhappy...
What are you going to do about that? Maybe we should just not worry about that... Have more kids... Maybe the next lot will be better...
Sigh.
People... Too much of htem... Make me sick... :(
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