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Re: sar is okay » sar

Posted by shelliR on August 14, 2001, at 20:51:09

In reply to Re: sar is okay » shelliR, posted by sar on August 13, 2001, at 13:59:59

Hi Sar.
>
> thanks, i don't even consider it nagging, well maybe in an affectionate way,
good, that's how it's meant.

>
> the combination of prozac and klonopin have helped my social anxiety immeasurably. i find myself acting really affectionate >and extraverted, which sometimes makes me nervous because i wonder if i'm being too much! (after having spent so much .time reticent and retiring).

I'm sure you'll balance out. Because if you are a true "introvert" in the Jungian sense of the word (Myer-Briggs test) than you will need to pull back sometimes or you will not be tune with yourself. But maybe you do tend toward the extravert side if you have no SA, so then you could go on and on like this. You'll find out, I'm sure. I have an extraverted personality, but am really an intravert, always need to recover after spending a long time with people, or I get panicked at being too far from myself.

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> my newest pdoc does not want me to take klonopin because he feels it is too addictive. i argued that klonopin has really salvaged/saved my life, and he said that was a sign that i'd already become too dependent on it. i take .5 mg twice daily. he wrote me a 'script for one month's worth more pills, but he too seemed to think that i need to work on more cognitive ways to deal with my anxiety. the thing is, I HAVE. swimming, yoga, deep breathing, CBT, therapy--but without meds, ruminating thoughts ravage my mind, terrible anxiety, shakiness, like a deer caught in headlights.<

Well, it doesn't seem like he's really threatening you yet. It's interesting to me that shrinks either don't mind using benzos or they hate it, but it doesn't seem to have anything to do with the needs of their patients. I think it's okay if he's helping you find other ways to control your anxiety, but if he threatens to take away the klonopin, I'd find someone else who will give it to you. If it helps you, it's good. My pdocs always give me klonopin; they never make it an issue.
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> i want to do therapy again, but my last go-'round has made me very wary. since i'm not insured, i'd have to go to the free counselors, and i just don't dig them as much--their required "goal sheets," anti-drug propaganda, blaming depression on occasional use of illicit drugs--this has been my experience. i'm in the process of getting medical insurance and then will be offered psychtherapy on a sliding-scale rate, but i feel like i'm the big loser in a cakewalk and wonder if *i'm* the problem, if i've only wholly liked 1 psych out of 10 then maybe i'm expecting too much...what do you think?

Well, I think people should be really picky about who they choose as a therapist. And probably if I had just picked my therapists at random, I'd really have a hard time. My present therapist was assigned to me years ago when I was in the hospital and I really liked her style, pushy but supportive. So the next time I wanted to change therapists I called her because I already knew she had been very helpful to me inpatient.

Here's the question (you probably already said, but I can't remember). After you drink one glass of alcohol, can you ever just stop. Or once you start, you lose that ability to control the amount?

If you can't control that, then truthfully, I don't think you're going to get very far in therapy. That kind of drinking usually has a genetic component to it, and people who have that basically have one choice, to stop drinking altogether. I've never been to a 12 step group, but they certainly don't sound very appealing to me. At some point I read that there were other types of groups available for alcoholics, but I don't know much about them, or even if they still exist. Is it possible to find another type of group that will help you? Do these "free places" offer groups? Then later down the road think about individual therapy?

BTW, I agree with everything that Marie says about you in her post further down. You've got so much going for you--I don't want the drinking thing to pull you down. And it will, baby girl.

Where do you live; I can't remember?

Take care, be careful.
Shelli


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