Posted by Larry Hoover on May 22, 2005, at 11:26:56
In reply to Re: Original Limu, posted by Thorp on May 22, 2005, at 5:59:24
> Hey Lar, 2005 05 22
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> What a pleasure to hear from someone who specializes in this kind of technology.I'm happy that we have also remained in the realm of friendly debate. I hope you don't mind, but I'm going to edit your post heavily.
>I have a theory as a chemist why brown algae like limu moui have fucoidan in their cell walls and why it has such diverse beneficial effects in human beings and even their pets.
Yes, it is a compound found in may other species, and genera. And more, as we shall see.
> Obviously you are way ahead of the game. You know all about such seaweeds, and know all their names.
It's not that hard, if you understand the structure of phylogenetic relationships. I looked up the specifics for this case, in minutes.
> Hey, these laboratories pulled out yet another name that you have not yet revealed to me: Phaeophyceae (brown algae).
Phaeophycae is the name of a phylogenetic Class. At the level of Class (a taxon), an equivalent in the animal sphere is Insecta. That's a rather large collection, and so is Phaeophyceae.
Domain Eukarya
Kingdom plantae
Phylum or Division Phaeophyta
**Class Phaeophyceae **
Order Laminariales
Family Laminariaceae
**Genus Laminaria**
**Species japonica**Common name: Kelp
(Aside: There are many different species called kelp, based on what grows in a particular locale, but they are all very similar in structure and form.)
> So, yes, the nutrition of limu moui is not new. People have been eating it for thousands of years with great benefits in a highly vigorous and vital existence with exceptional longevity. The greatness of Original Limu is that it is now available to anyone and everyone, or will be soon as countries are qualified for distribution. It is kind of like what smoked meats did for the pioneers of our country when refrigeration was not available.
Or dehydration. Dry stuff lasts virtually forever. They have found edible grain in tombs that are 3000 years old.
> I suspect the limu moui was chosen because it is the most economical brown algae to extract and who wants to pay any more for a fucoidan-laced supplement than they have to! I really don’t care what the source of the fucoidan is in the research papers as long as someone can get fucoidan to me as conveniently and economically as possible.
> Now, finally, regarding concentration, you can view an analytical report on this subject at the following website: http://www.limu-analysis.com/ .
Fucoidan Analyses:
Sample Fucoidan Content
(1) Original Limu 0.14 gms/100 mls
(2) Limu Plus 0.005 gms/100 mlsOriginal Limu has 0.14% fucoidan. The bulk of your product is water.
Compare that to: http://www.betterherbs.com/limu_nei.htm
This is a dried product, claiming 80% fucoidan by weight. Nobody is buying water with this product. I have no reason to believe its anything more than kelp powder, though.
> OK, Lar, let’s deal with expense.Think marketing. Question: "How can I get people to pay $80/lb. for kelp powder?" Answer: "Call it Limu, or something exotic, and build a fancy website."
Alternative: just buy kelp powder. This is simply the first vendor I found, on a google search using those keywords. It may not be the best price. http://www.wildroots.com/kelp-powder-p-2422.html One pound for $3.60.
> Finally, who cares what you call it or where it came from. Fucoidan is fucoidan!
Exactly my point.
Lar
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