Posted by tealady on March 25, 2005, at 17:48:03
In reply to Not something I get w/my GAD » tealady, posted by Chris O on March 24, 2005, at 20:42:33
> Jan:
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> Hey, it's me, Chris. We talked about fish oil a few weeks back.Thanks for the reply and help Chris. Much appreciated.
Your breathing stuff, hmm, does not sound like anything I have experienced with my GAD.
Yes, That's what makes me wonder some times. All the docs say panic attacks, but I'm not completely sure of it, as it tends to happen at times when I haven't anything to panic over.
My anxiety does manifest physically, but it rarely affects my breathing, unless I am having a full-on panic attack. You said "they (panic attacks) are usually there to some extent, unless I am fully relaxed" in your post. Do you mean you continually feel like you are having panic attacks? If so, I don't see how that could be bearable, at least not for me.
Well no, its not that good ..which is why I want to figure out what it is and what I can do to stop it or reduce at least...then I'll work on my obsessiveness and worry guts tendencies which I was born with I think, but I can usually"control" to some extent.
Or maybe the worrying causes the panic?? Gets complicated there.
Sometimes I do tend to really get myself worked up worrying about any little thing..and then it kinda blows into panic that's pretty unbearable..and no need for any panic or even concern really.My GAD is a major problem, I mean, I probably should be on meds because...I isolate...get agoraphobic otherwise...but I'm able to make money on a computer job that I do out of my significant other's house, so...I am in a period of "enablement" right now. Without her support, I would be struggling. (She doesn't think this is true, but I always feel one step away from being homeless when I am living on my own. It's never happened, but, was-laa, I have my GAD to thank for always feeling that way.)
I guess I isolate too at times. I feel like that now. and yet, I love chatting with people and meeting people...go figure.
Maybe sometimes I just need to as I tend to work myself up into panicking over way too many little things..even board posts, and there is no way I can physically keep up with everything to he extent I would like to..so I have to tell myself NOT to worry and if I can't get around to replying to everyone it doesn't matter, someone else hopefully will :-)) But I don't feel right not replying even when I'm really wiped...hope this is understandable. Guess I need to organise my time or something like that so I have some balance.I don't know what's up with your breathing thing. I can get agoraphobic in certain rooms, but it has nothing to do with ventilation.
I "think" mine has, but I'm not totally sure. That's why I find it strange. I sometimes wonder if the increase in "panic" is due to poor air quality..ventilation or pollution etc.When I exercise, I generally feel better, no problems with breathing. But my worrying and obsessing...it's almost constant, never stops, so, I don't know, things that boost my neurotransmitters tend to help with all that.
Yeah, I guess I don't stop worrying that much. Unless I'm looking at things and absorbing nature, or snuggling with my dogs or chatting with some of friends that seem to accept me as me I guess. But that doesn't get things done,same as you said with exercise.
Anyway, have you ever tried any breathing exercises, like, for meditation. I have a CD from Dr. Weil, it has meditation breathing exercises on it. I tried it for a couple of months; never really did much for my anxiety, but maybe it would work for your breathing stuff? I don't know.
Thanks, that's a great idea.
I actually made it to an appointment with a psychologist on Thursday aft. (I forgot my first appt a fortnight ago..poor memory). The appointment was about panic and breathing problems. He was in a rather stuffy office. We compared my breathing rate..about 17 a minute with his..about 9 a minute. Apparently, according to his literature, "normal" is around 10 to 12 breathes a minute. I do realise it depends on body size a lot too...with babies breathing faster and reducing as you grow. So I suspect I should be around 12 a minute?
Anyway he had me try deep fast breathing ..and that makes the feeling exaggerated..like the tingling is worse, the light headedness and "unreal not there stuff" is worse, the inability to concentrate well is worse etc. We only did it for 3 mins. According to his "book" what happens is you get less carbon dioxide but no more oxygen in your blood...I'm not sure of that though (I don't tend to believe what I read unless I can work it out myself with other stuff).
Although my blood Bicarbonate level is lowish and chloride highish, so maybe that fits.I want to look into this more.
Actually I'd Like a blood test of PO2 and PCO2 but NO luck with any docs there..I reckon they might help me if I knew what was going on. Hey but I can get as many SSRI scripts as I like to help!! We can't order our own blood tests like in the US, even if we are prepared to pay for them..something wrong there.An exercise physiologist I was listening to last week mentioned that sodium bicarbonate loading (in excess) causes diarrhoea..I wondered if I need to take sodium bicarbonate or not..still trying to work out what to do to help.
I did try bi-carb of soda once but got a headache. Not sure if related or not.
The people who do take sodium bicarb. take it to allow them to exercise more as it reduces the lactic acid I think. I did have high lactic acid levels in my blood before thyroid meds and that was just from lying in bed mostly (LOL), but they are coming down..and I'm exercising more, but not as I'd like to be able to as yet.
Hope I've got all that right.>
> I wish you luck,
> ChrisThanks Chris. I'm going to try to slow my breathing rate down and breathe deeper. I've been trying this morning..like breathe in deeply and count out to 20 or so as I breathe out..but after 3 breathes I start yawning and the yawning just keeps increasing... I'll look into those tapes too..great idea.
You know they are advertising breathing exrecises for lowering chloresterol now too? Maybe that fits with me too.Jan
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