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use of requests to be civil (PBC, etc.) » floatingbridge

Posted by Deputy 10derHeart on June 21, 2009, at 14:42:08

In reply to Re: Rules Recommended Changes question and comment, posted by floatingbridge on June 21, 2009, at 0:32:26

> Are they, as one poster above mentioned, no longer used?

(rskontos wrote:)
>It has been my observations that PBC's are not used now just blocks

Nothing has changed as far as use of PBCs. Deputies have asked posters to be civil 8 times in the month of June, and Dr. Bob asked one poster to 'please rephrase..." a part of a post (sometimes referred to as a PRT=Please Rephrase That)

The only thing posters may have noticed recently is Dr. Bob trying different methods to avoid PBCs, blocks altogether, and to encourage posters to work things out in the thread, amongst themselves. You'll find plenty of threads/posts on this Admin board discussing that issue - pro and con. (Not sure if there are any "pro," actually) In those threads, the deputies have not been acting, whether or not we see uncivil posts, once Dr. Bob has engaged the posters. Sometimes, it is many days, even weeks, before Dr. Bob is able to find the time to look at those threads again. That is unfortunate, but true.

In general, deputies will ask a poster to please follow the civility guidelines **at least** once, sometimes 2 or more times before resorting to a block. I know I can speak for all of us when I say our focus is on **asking** a person to follow the guidelines, and/or teaching what they are when there is confusion. That is the goal. None of us likes resorting to blocks. We use our best assessment of the poster and posts, taking into consideration whether they are new, are trying to post civil posts but misunderstanding the guidelines, etc. The times you may see no PBC before a block are with long time posters just coming off a block, who may post in basically the same uncivil manner that resulted in that block, the idea being they know what is and isn't civil, so..... Or, perhaps when a poster posts uncivil things, and immediately says, "I don't care about the XXXX civility rules," or, "I know this isn't civil so block me..., " or words to that effect. I that covers 98% of the times deputies block without a prior PBC.

We consult with each other in most cases, about PBCs, whether things are uncivil or not, whether it is appropriate to block, etc. This may not happen if only one deputy is available for hours (say when something is escalating quickly) or a day or more, etc. We alert Dr. Bob if we feel unable to act in a given situation. We also alert Dr. Bob on anything we've done but feel needs a look by him, to be sure we've applied the guidelines the way he would like. He can, of course, reverse, change, cancel or do anything he likes after any deputy action. Even though he is not here as frequently as we (the deputies) would like, these are still his boards, his guidelines.

Hope that helps answer some questions for the newer posters. As I posted to Scott above, I personally wish to stay out of these threads about rule changes, etc., as I think it's better not to have deputy input...and to just "listen" (i.e. read) what posters have to say. But, I'll do my best to answer any specific questions about current admin policy, if any more come up.

-- 10derHeart


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