Posted by Dr. Bob on January 24, 2007, at 0:40:16
In reply to Re: helping **suicide trigs » Dr. Bob, posted by ElaineM on January 22, 2007, at 23:23:58
> > > > I would have felt pressured in the above *posts*
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> Thanks Dr Bob it's a little clearer BUT :) would it have been best to have said in Hf's shoes I would have felt pressured?That would've been fine, too:
> > > > If I had been in HF's shoes, I would have felt pressured in the above *posts*
> And why not a please rephrase that ?
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> Fallen4MyTI guess I felt like giving you the option of just dropping it if you wanted?
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> Yes I agree, considering that we only had phone or computer contact, I suppose my friend *would* tell me multiple times that I was worth saving - who doesn't say that to someone who makes such an outcry? Plus, I don't think suggesting IRL help has ever been the *only* words offered in a thread before, without other statements of friendship or concern.
Great, I think other statements of friendship and concern can help keep it from feeling like pressure.
> But in terms of preventing someone in such a desperate mental state, interms of human life, I'd like to rely on *real-life* action rather than far away professions of friendship.
Definitely, *preventing* is something that might not be possible for people here. And trying to do something that's not possible is bound to be frustrating.
> I kinda can't believe that you're trying to talk us out of saying that, as a given, suicidal people and those talking of overdosing should be told to call professionals
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> ElI'm not trying to do that, I'm trying to say that (1) if you tell them to call someone, and they don't, and you push them, then they might finally call, which would be good, but they also might just feel pushed, which would be counterproductive and (2) in addition to telling them to call someone, statements of friendship and concern can help, too.
Bob
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