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we got 250,000 extra doses from Spain

Posted by alexandra_k on September 9, 2021, at 17:40:49

but when we contracted initially for however many doses (before we contracted with Spain for 250,000 extra) we purchased enough doses for 2 per eligible person.

and the eligible people were... 21? 20? 18? 16? I do believe we purchased enough for 2 per person who had attained the age of 16 years.

i don't know how we guestimated how many unlawful immigrants there were. overstayers.

by most accounts we tell fibsies about our population by over-estimating. we count the people on their (lawful) way in -- but we don't count the people on their (lawful) way out. we don't want to acknowledge that many who come HERE for a better life flee after not so very much time in NZ realising that there isn't really anything here so they need to move along...

but anyway... Fraser High School... Biggest High School in NZ, to be fair. 20,000 kids. Aged 13 to 18 to be fair. But we are talking about 1/2 the school, or likely more like 3/4 of the school who are are now eligible to be vaccinated when the age of eligibility drops from 16 to 12.

And that's one High School. How many other High Schools are there in that area?

Across the country...

We purchased 250,000 extra doses but that isn't enough to vaccinate all the kids in NZL aged between 12 and 16 years.

So...

What's going on?

1) Option 1. Little kiddies only need a 1/2 dose. Let's see... Each vial contains 5 doses with instructions on the bottle saying to discard remainder and not to pool remainder. We were getting 6 doses per vial... 7 doses per vial... 10 half doses per vial???

2) Option 2. Some people only need saline. Infinity of doses per vial!

3) Option 3. We are lying about how many people have been administered doses. We are lying with the above, too, by, effectively, committing a fraud on the people. Having them believe they are recieving a full done and only giving them half. Misappropriating medical supplies? Stealing from the manufacturers (we paid for a certain number of doses NOT a certain number of vials).

...

Brilliant that. Pay for the number of vials. Supply a bit more than was contracted for. See the integrity of the people you are doing business with.

Just enough rope to hang themselves with?

When they could have tied a bow...

They could have phoned the manufacturers -- it could have freed up shipments for developing nations... Honesty and integrity.

Fail.

 

Re: we got 250,000 extra doses from Spain

Posted by alexandra_k on September 9, 2021, at 17:49:43

In reply to we got 250,000 extra doses from Spain, posted by alexandra_k on September 9, 2021, at 17:40:49

Always throwing a little money at a few people to keep things held back...

Let's pay a team of 6 to develop our very own independent unique strategy. Let's do things our way. Let's have our team of 6 independently do all the things... Develop vaccines. Manufacture vaccines. Make saliva tests. Manufacture saliva tests. Let's make face masks here, ourselves...

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Did we follow the manufacturers instructions?

Did we do the fit-testing on the masks that we were supposed to do?
Did we run the saliva tests in accordance with the instructions?
Did we administer the vaccines in accordance with the instructions?

Did we?

Or did we just 'get in there' and 'have a go' and just do whatever we wanted whenever we wanted without any regard at all for what the manufacturers had to say about the use of their product?

Perhaps the 'economists' or 'managers' or 'administrators' knew better than the manufacturers what was most financially in the best interests of the managers and administrators of New Zealand. That must be it.

And so.... What happened?

Well...

The manufacturers were waiting...

For us to say 'we can't get a fit test out of that batch'
'We can't get a true positive or we are getting false negatives out of that batch'
'We are concerned that the bottles say administer 5 doses but there is a lot left over looks like we could get another dose or two -- what should we do?'

The manufacturers were waiting...

Seeing if they could do business with New Zealand.

Else...

Send all the 'factory seconds' to the nation who can't (won't) tell the difference. Cheapest contracts only -- right -- for the inferior not fit for purpose products. That's how the government contracts for the health of it's people.

All the face masks tkhat the other nations sent back to the manufacturers because they couldn't get fit tests with those batches...

Send them to NZL so the government can pretend to the people that it contracted for them to have health care.

 

Re: we got 250,000 extra doses from Spain

Posted by alexandra_k on September 9, 2021, at 17:55:01

In reply to Re: we got 250,000 extra doses from Spain, posted by alexandra_k on September 9, 2021, at 17:49:43

just won't do it.

we don't see corruption.

we won't see corruption.

there's not much in the way of any other place in the world quite so corrupt as new zealand.

'did you trade in influence to obtain vaccines from Spain -- New Zealand'

'probably' says the Prime Minister.

that's how we do business -- right?

why it's so important to do business face-to-face.

in those dodgey back-room deals.

why we are so very afraid of being locked out.

only international thing anyone has been invited to is the climate conference in scotland.

apparently we aren't invited to attend by way of online attendance.

so... let's see how corrupt nzl is... the lengths it will go to to get new zealand delegates to a conference in Scotland (taking places in quarantine while various new zealand citizens are refused to enter because there aren't placed in quarantine for them...)

because new zealand really really really really really really really really really needs to be told right to the very very face. about how we aren't doing any of the things we are supposed to be doing and the developed world really can't do business with the likes of us.

we really need to travel half the way across the world...

and hear it to our faces.

oh mighty leaders of new zealand!!!

just complete and utter failure to get with the f*ck*ng programme.

other side of the world is moving out of lockdown...

we haven't had our first wave yet.

 

Re: we got 250,000 extra doses from Spain

Posted by alexandra_k on September 9, 2021, at 17:58:08

In reply to Re: we got 250,000 extra doses from Spain, posted by alexandra_k on September 9, 2021, at 17:55:01

they got thinking about herd immunity and about how many kids there are and they got to thinking that herd immunity would best be served by getting all the kids. they thought that would be relatively easy.

they thought they could put the country into stage 4 lockdown (so that people, for the most part, were home) so that it was super easy for people to cue up for vaccines.

then they didn't give out full doses. they got to thinking that it was best to give as many doses... and if they were only 1/2 doses... or whatever... that would be some protection... and they could get 1/2 doses to 2x as many people a lot more quickly. get the parents to bundle the kids up into the cars...

why did RSV suddenly go away? c'mon... c'mon... c'mon...

politics, indeed.

things don't make sense / add up. at all.

 

Vaccine Delivery

Posted by alexandra_k on September 9, 2021, at 18:02:44

In reply to we got 250,000 extra doses from Spain, posted by alexandra_k on September 9, 2021, at 17:40:49

I booked the first available time (first day, first hour) the very very day that my age group (over 40 years) became eligible.

And my appointment isn't until October.

The Prime Minister stands up and says that 12 year olds are getting vaccines... And apparently 75 per cent of the over 40 group have been vaccinated.

How did they manage that?

They reclassified me so I wasn't 'over 40 years' I was 'disabled'. I am part of the 'disabled' cohort that was eligible earlier -- and where the uptake of that category is very very low (as you would expect that's what it MEANS to have been disabled by the government -- right???)

Apparently vaccine passports will be coming out soon. Anyone who the government refuses to vaccinate they will also refuse to allow to exit / leave the country?

Really?

Sounds like something New Zealand would try and do... While bargaining for doses of euthanasia drug.

Right?

 

Re: Vaccine Delivery

Posted by alexandra_k on September 9, 2021, at 18:04:03

In reply to Vaccine Delivery, posted by alexandra_k on September 9, 2021, at 18:02:44

i mean the vision..

what it is that they want this world to be...

wow.

 

If there is an experiment...

Posted by alexandra_k on September 11, 2021, at 2:54:27

In reply to Re: Vaccine Delivery, posted by alexandra_k on September 9, 2021, at 18:04:03

There will be records of that.

There will be a little star here or whatever to code it. So they can see what happens with their little experiment.

I want to see the vial... The vial the vaccines come in. Does every vial have a bar code or a number? Every vial? And different vials with the same batch have a different vial number?

And then the data they record is your name and the vial number your vaccine came from -- yes?

So if there is an adverse event they can check on the vial -- right? Not just the batch (where a batch is made up of however many vials).

I mean... The tracking is at the level of the vial -- right? Otherwise... I don't suppose they would have bothered to have put them in vials that small. If they didn't want things tracked to the level of the vial, I mean to say.

They could have come 20 doses to a vial etc.

But they came 5 doses to a vial. More... More... More... And then less.

No?

 

Re: If there is an experiment...

Posted by alexandra_k on September 11, 2021, at 2:56:46

In reply to If there is an experiment..., posted by alexandra_k on September 11, 2021, at 2:54:27

So it's easy to see how many people got vaccines from a vial -- yes?

And there is no reason or excuse for their to be 2 vials remaining at end of the day because 'extra doses' were given out of some vials (or extra saline was administered we can't tell).

Yeah right.

None of this sounds or seems particularly plausible to me.

If there are things I don't know... But they aren't doing a good job of explianing that's for sure...


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