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Posted by bearfan on November 2, 2010, at 19:43:59
Has anyone else found it difficult to find a new job in this current market? I don't remember it being this difficult in awhile. Its hard to even find the shorter term projects.
Posted by Maxime on November 2, 2010, at 19:44:00
In reply to Jobs..., posted by bearfan on October 21, 2010, at 17:17:33
This thread will get moved out of medications ...
But yes, finding a job these day is VERY hard. I was unemployed from February 2009 to September 2010. I was willing to do anything but no one hire me. It made me more depressed.
Have you thought about joining a job club?
Posted by bearfan on November 2, 2010, at 19:44:00
In reply to Re: Jobs... » bearfan, posted by Maxime on October 21, 2010, at 17:39:25
I forgot to mention that I am a sufferer of anxiety/depression and not being employed full time tends to escalate these symptoms. Not being able to pay your bills can make anyone uneasy.
Posted by Zyprexa on November 2, 2010, at 19:44:01
In reply to Jobs..., posted by bearfan on October 21, 2010, at 17:17:33
I started a new job in may of this year. So it can't be too bad. It is pizza delivery. I couldn't get a job in my field of study. But that might be because the last one went bad as I was changing meds around and lost the job. I did manage to get a few interviews, but nothing bit.
Doesn't realy matter though as I was getting tired of that field.
Posted by bleauberry on November 2, 2010, at 19:44:01
In reply to Jobs..., posted by bearfan on October 21, 2010, at 17:17:33
This is the worst economy since The Great Depression.
The unemployment rate for people who are still receiving benefits looking for a job is about 9.5%. The unemployment rate for all people, including those who have given up looking and their benefits were exhausted is about 17%. The unemployment rate for blacks is about 25%.
The above numbers do not include college graduates looking for first time jobs. The real unemployment rate, all things considered, means that 1 in 3 people aggressively looking for a job will not find one. The jobs that are found typically pay far less than previous jobs, and require doing much more work. A popular retailer, as an example, now has one department manager running two or three departments instead of one. Lots of consolidation in all businesses. Lots of streamlining, multiple duties etc.
All of the above do not apply to government jobs. They continue to experience very low or nonexistent unemployment. In other words, for those who work in the private sector paying taxes to pay those who work in government, life is hard. For those in government who collect paychecks from those having a hard time, they are relatively unaffected.
If you can read between the lines, no more be said.
In any case, yes, it is very tough times. I know a computer expert who used to make $100,000 a year who is now working in WalMart for $9 an hour and he is very thankful for his job. In this environment, any job is a good job.
Posted by bearfan on November 2, 2010, at 19:44:01
In reply to Re: Jobs..., posted by Zyprexa on October 21, 2010, at 18:34:30
Yeah I was talking about the career level jobs. I need something that pays at least at least a living wage so I can pay my bills and a few of my college loans.
Posted by Maxime on November 2, 2010, at 19:44:01
In reply to Re: Jobs..., posted by bearfan on October 21, 2010, at 18:00:42
> I forgot to mention that I am a sufferer of anxiety/depression and not being employed full time tends to escalate these symptoms. Not being able to pay your bills can make anyone uneasy.
I know, I have been there. Well, I still am. I thought that once I would begin working that my depression would go away .... it hasn't. But at least I have some money coming in to pay bills.
Have you tried going to an agency to get a job?
Posted by Maxime on November 2, 2010, at 19:44:02
In reply to Re: Jobs..., posted by bleauberry on October 21, 2010, at 18:44:19
I agree. If I was doing the same job I am now at a coorporate level I would be earning about 40k a year. But I am working in a non-profit and the government gives the organization money towards my pay. I am now earning $11 an hour. I haven't earned that little since I was 17 ... I am now in my 40s. But I am very grateful for the job. My depression isn't getting any better, but at least it is not getting worse the way it was from being stuck at home and on Welfare.
Posted by Deneb on November 2, 2010, at 19:44:02
In reply to Re: Jobs... » bleauberry, posted by Maxime on October 21, 2010, at 21:23:43
Oh no, now I am really scared. I just graduated and am looking for a job in Ottawa. Those working in the public sector are doing really well, but I think those in the private sector are cutting back a lot. My dream is to work in the public sector because they get paid a lot compared to someone with the same skills working in the private sector.
Competition for public sector jobs are fierce, with thousands of applicants for one job. My career counselor and the guy running this workshop about getting into the public sector told me not to count on getting in.
Right now I am looking for a job, so far no return calls other than from the volunteer position.
I hope I find a job! I really need one!
Posted by Maxime on November 2, 2010, at 19:44:02
In reply to Re: Jobs..., posted by Deneb on October 21, 2010, at 21:48:40
> Oh no, now I am really scared. I just graduated and am looking for a job in Ottawa. Those working in the public sector are doing really well, but I think those in the private sector are cutting back a lot. My dream is to work in the public sector because they get paid a lot compared to someone with the same skills working in the private sector.
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> Competition for public sector jobs are fierce, with thousands of applicants for one job. My career counselor and the guy running this workshop about getting into the public sector told me not to count on getting in.
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> Right now I am looking for a job, so far no return calls other than from the volunteer position.
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> I hope I find a job! I really need one!Not to be a downer, but be prepared to get a job not in your field to start with.
How is your French? You would need perfect French to get into the public sector. It's really hard to break through and get a job in that sector. They tend to hire from within. But you never know! You might apply for a job just at the right time.
What is your degree in?
Posted by Deneb on November 2, 2010, at 19:44:03
In reply to Re: Jobs... » Deneb, posted by Maxime on October 21, 2010, at 22:47:27
My French is awful. I don't speak French at all. I have two friends who got into the federal government after graduating. I'll have to ask them how they got in.
Some jobs don't need French, but most jobs need French.
I have 9 hours of exams to do in early Nov. as part of the application process to get into the federal government.
I hope I get some kind of job. I really want to go to Hawaii in May.
My degree is in General Science.
Posted by Phillipa on November 2, 2010, at 19:44:03
In reply to Re: Jobs... » Maxime, posted by Deneb on October 21, 2010, at 23:15:02
Deneb the health care profession pays great wages all over the USA and they import so to speak from Canada. Dental hygenists' Nurses, Techs of all types and you love science and are very advanced with it so consider researching the field. Phillipa
Posted by maxime on November 2, 2010, at 19:44:03
In reply to Re: Jobs... » Maxime, posted by Deneb on October 21, 2010, at 23:15:02
I am almost certain that you will need French for any government job. Of I could be wrong. Good luck with the exam.
Posted by maxime on November 2, 2010, at 19:44:04
In reply to Re: Jobs... » Deneb, posted by Phillipa on October 22, 2010, at 0:30:34
> Deneb the health care profession pays great wages all over the USA and they import so to speak from Canada. Dental hygenists' Nurses, Techs of all types and you love science and are very advanced with it so consider researching the field. Phillipa
Phillipa, Just what Canada DOESN'T need. Our Canadian tax dollars going towards training in Canada only to ship off to the USA for higher wages. That is one of the reasons we have a shortage of health care professionals.
Posted by bleauberry on November 2, 2010, at 19:44:04
In reply to Re: Jobs and Depression from not having a good one, posted by bearfan on October 21, 2010, at 18:45:09
> Yeah I was talking about the career level jobs. I need something that pays at least at least a living wage so I can pay my bills and a few of my college loans.
You and about 10 million other people in the same boat.
In this environment, you take what you can get and keep looking in the meantime. Waiting around for that career job is likely a very long wait. The people in line for that job will probably be several dozen or more, sometimes much more.
Career jobs are extremely few. So it is very thin pickings, if any at all.
There is nothing to stop someone from climbing the ladder rapidly except themselves. Example. With the proper motivation, desire, and performance, one can go from $8 cashier to $100,000 store manager in less than 5 years.
But of course, that rules out many of us including myself....the troubled motivation and rocky stability are heavy weights.
These aren't like any times any of us have ever seen.
I was always told though, if you're going to dream, dream big.
Posted by Phillipa on November 2, 2010, at 19:44:04
In reply to Re: Jobs... » Phillipa, posted by maxime on October 22, 2010, at 10:20:49
Worked with a lot of Canadian Nurses. After a few years most returned to Canada. They left as no jobs there now this was 15 years ago? Phillipa ps dental hygenists start at $40,000 and cap at $60,000 and that's NC one of lowest wage states.
Posted by maxime on November 2, 2010, at 19:44:05
In reply to Re: Jobs... » maxime, posted by Phillipa on October 22, 2010, at 20:12:58
> Worked with a lot of Canadian Nurses. After a few years most returned to Canada. They left as no jobs there now this was 15 years ago? Phillipa ps dental hygenists start at $40,000 and cap at $60,000 and that's NC one of lowest wage states.
They don't return anymore. We have a huge shortage of nurses despite many going through nursing school here in Canada. They all piss off to the States.
Posted by Phillipa on November 2, 2010, at 19:44:05
In reply to Re: Jobs... » Phillipa, posted by maxime on October 22, 2010, at 21:54:24
Really? I'd think Canada would pay more? Our sales to Canada are strong. Phillipa
Posted by maxime on November 2, 2010, at 19:44:05
In reply to Re: Jobs... » maxime, posted by Phillipa on October 22, 2010, at 22:10:35
Nope, Canada does not pay more.
The whole scenario of people in the med field going south is called "brain drain".
Also, I think that doctors like going to the States because there is technology available there that is not available in Canada. I am not sure what though, but I did read about it a year or so ago.
Posted by bleauberry on November 2, 2010, at 19:44:06
In reply to Re: Jobs... » Phillipa, posted by maxime on October 22, 2010, at 21:54:24
> > Worked with a lot of Canadian Nurses. After a few years most returned to Canada. They left as no jobs there now this was 15 years ago? Phillipa ps dental hygenists start at $40,000 and cap at $60,000 and that's NC one of lowest wage states.
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> They don't return anymore. We have a huge shortage of nurses despite many going through nursing school here in Canada. They all piss off to the States.This is an unintended consequence, yet highly predictable when viewing international history, that happens with socialized government-run health care systems. Anywhere. Everywhere. Every time. It happens every time and every where it is tried.
Freedom in the public market fosters talent in great numbers.
Posted by desolationrower on November 2, 2010, at 19:44:06
In reply to Re: Jobs... » Phillipa, posted by maxime on October 22, 2010, at 21:54:24
Well its certainly bad, tho I haven't been posting much recently since I have been working. Tho or system is Down atm so I'm surfing right now. So there could be a selection bias ABOUT THISW.
-d/r
Posted by Maxime on November 2, 2010, at 19:44:06
In reply to Re: Jobs..., posted by desolationrower on October 27, 2010, at 10:13:17
> Well its certainly bad, tho I haven't been posting much recently since I have been working. Tho or system is Down atm so I'm surfing right now. So there could be a selection bias ABOUT THISW.
> -d/rYou may have a job ... you are one of the lucky ones. Even though the recession is over, jobs are hard to find. It's putting many people through depressive times.
BTW, I don't think you should surf the net at work, especially on psycho babble. You wouldn't want anyone to find out that you post here.
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