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Posted by Glydin on June 30, 2005, at 10:53:12
>And how are things going for you?? I hope you have success with the EPO - how much will you be taking??
Loops
~~~Thought I would start a new thread...Good to hear about you. I am doing really well, thanks for asking. I also did a some time on the depression side of the street. It was a change of status for me, who if I could (previously) get anxiety under control, all was well. Life does like to throw curves. I fought the depressive monster every way possible and tried to engage in denial for a while, too. But, as we know, IT won't be ignored. Finally RXed it in March. That plan has worked shockingly well for me. I'm thinking when I read the med board, I'm the only one it's working out for. (slight smile)
I've been on the EPO for about a week or so. Working up to 3,000 mgs. I'm not sure if it's not increasing some joint pain for me. Which does not make ANY sense. Although, I have been known to have the strangest reactions to things.
Where I'm located, I might enjoy some of the cooler weather you are having. We are HOT and very humid. Hormone issues LOVE that kind of weather...
Take good care of you and keep your music alive,
Glydin
Posted by LOOPS on July 9, 2005, at 22:50:34
In reply to To: LOOPS, posted by Glydin on June 30, 2005, at 10:53:12
Hey Glydin --
sorry it took me so long - I've been very busy with stuff!
You know that EPO is best taken with omega 3 right? I think you need the EPA from omega 3 to make the good inflammatory prosta-s from the GLA? I believe this to be true because a long time ago I tried eating a lot of EPO without taking fish oil as well and my eczema got worse. Ironically at a separate time I had tried taking fish oil and had a little bit of sucess (but I was only taking weak strength EPA and not together with the EPO).
Of course I am assuming joint pain is related to inflammatory conditions like eczema and it might not be. But I wouldn't be surprised if it is.
It's very good you've found some relief/healing with medication - what are you taking? I've never gone on meds but I know if I ever arrived at a point where I'd had enough I would go to it - I've never had a doubt about that. I have always thought it's better to continue living than to die (which one does emotionally with depression).
I wish you all the best. I do find EPO particularly helpful with calming me down, for whatever reason - and also lessening alcohol craving (I try to drink very, very little and succeed with these oils).
Let me know how it goes -
and you can have the cold weather from here - it's crap/sucks (depending on whether your NA or English!) My hormones go bezerk when the sun comes out.
Loops
Posted by Sarah T. on July 10, 2005, at 1:29:19
In reply to Re: To: LOOPS, posted by LOOPS on July 9, 2005, at 22:50:34
Hi, LOOPS.
In a day or so, I'm going to be replying to quite a few posts below on the fish oil survey thread that I started, but I just wanted to respond to something you said in this thread. You mentioned joint pain being related to other inflammatory conditions. I think it must be, but I need to learn more about it. I find that my joint pains are greatly aggravated by sleep-deprivation and my menstrual cycle. During the second half (luteal phase) of my cycle, my joint pains get progressively worse. If I don't get enough sleep during that time, the problem is compounded, and I am in excruciating pain. Aspirin does not help when it's this bad. I haven't taken anything stronger than aspirin or Advil and, in view of all the bad news lately, I probably won't.
Posted by Glydin on July 10, 2005, at 7:57:43
In reply to Re: To: LOOPS, posted by LOOPS on July 9, 2005, at 22:50:34
> Hey Glydin --
>
> sorry it took me so long - I've been very busy with stuff!~~~Hi Loops, no problem. Busy is good - usually...
>
> You know that EPO is best taken with omega 3 right? I think you need the EPA from omega 3 to make the good inflammatory prosta-s from the GLA?~~~I switched from EPO straight to an organic "women's" oil mix at the suggestion of a friend of mine. She has had good success with her perimenopausal issues with it. Also, it's a daily dose which is appealing to me. It's has:
One Tablespoon Provides approximately:
Fatty AcidsOmega-3 5,115 mg
Omega-6 2,330 mg
Omega-9 1,488 mg
GLA 100 mgFlax Particulates
(Lignan) 2185 mg
Isoflavones 45 mg
Other
Saponins 55 mg
Rosemary/ascorbic acid 20 mgSome have problems with soy, but soy has been pretty good to me. It does wonders for my skin.
> Of course I am assuming joint pain is related to inflammatory conditions like eczema and it might not be. But I wouldn't be surprised if it is.
~~~I have osteoarthritis. Worse probelms in my neck where there's some spurring. It's also where my tension lives, so muscle aches are pretty common.
>
> It's very good you've found some relief/healing with medication - what are you taking? I've never gone on meds but I know if I ever arrived at a point where I'd had enough I would go to it -~~~I was previously treating an anxiety disorder and that was going well. I had a status change. Denial worked for a while, but not for long. I take Lexapro 10 mgs. It's been a good treatment for me. I didn't want to go that route, but it's worked out well so far. Things are better than I expected.
> I wish you all the best.~~~And the best right back to you. I'll keep you posted on the hormones and my attempt to treat them...
Glydin
Posted by KaraS on July 10, 2005, at 19:45:08
In reply to Re: To: LOOPS » LOOPS, posted by Sarah T. on July 10, 2005, at 1:29:19
> Hi, LOOPS.
>
> In a day or so, I'm going to be replying to quite a few posts below on the fish oil survey thread that I started, but I just wanted to respond to something you said in this thread. You mentioned joint pain being related to other inflammatory conditions. I think it must be, but I need to learn more about it. I find that my joint pains are greatly aggravated by sleep-deprivation and my menstrual cycle. During the second half (luteal phase) of my cycle, my joint pains get progressively worse. If I don't get enough sleep during that time, the problem is compounded, and I am in excruciating pain. Aspirin does not help when it's this bad. I haven't taken anything stronger than aspirin or Advil and, in view of all the bad news lately, I probably won't.
Hi Sarah,
I haven't followed this whole thread so forgive me if I'm repeating something - but have you tried MSM for joint pain? I have found that both fish oil and MSM have helped me with that.K
Posted by Sarah T. on July 20, 2005, at 19:33:26
In reply to Re: Joint pain » Sarah T., posted by KaraS on July 10, 2005, at 19:45:08
Hi Kara. I see that you posted this quite a few days ago, but I just saw it today. I don't think I've tried MSM. I guess I'll have to check the vitamin cabinet in my kitchen to see whether there's any there! Thank you for telling me about it. Do you think it's better than Glucosamine and Chondroitin?
Posted by KaraS on July 21, 2005, at 19:27:55
In reply to Re: Joint pain » KaraS, posted by Sarah T. on July 20, 2005, at 19:33:26
> Hi Kara. I see that you posted this quite a few days ago, but I just saw it today. I don't think I've tried MSM. I guess I'll have to check the vitamin cabinet in my kitchen to see whether there's any there! Thank you for telling me about it. Do you think it's better than Glucosamine and Chondroitin?
I don't know. I haven't tried Glucosamine or Chondroitin. I have a supplement now that contains all three of them but I haven't taken it yet. My joints have been fine lately so I haven't felt the need to try it. I have a feeling that all three combined is the best. Good luck!
Posted by Glydin on July 23, 2005, at 9:07:35
In reply to To: LOOPS, posted by Glydin on June 30, 2005, at 10:53:12
Hey LOOPS,
Just wanted to let you know my oil mix is going great. First cycle on the stuff has been better - we shall see if this lasts, but so far, I'm a-likin' it!!
Hope this finds you doing well.
Good thoughts,
Glydin
Posted by LOOPS on July 24, 2005, at 10:45:56
In reply to Re: To: LOOPS--- update on pesky women's concerns, posted by Glydin on July 23, 2005, at 9:07:35
> Hey LOOPS,
>
> Just wanted to let you know my oil mix is going great. First cycle on the stuff has been better - we shall see if this lasts, but so far, I'm a-likin' it!!
>
> Hope this finds you doing well.
>
> Good thoughts,
> Glydin
Hi -How much are you taking?
Glad to hear it's working! I am taking borage oil once more with the fish oil, but I'm wary of anything with flax seed oil as it makes me a bit nuts (or so I perceive.....).
Keep us updated - I might give it a whirl later in conjunction with fish oil.
Loops
Posted by Glydin on July 24, 2005, at 13:48:34
In reply to Re: To: LOOPS--- update on pesky women's concerns, posted by LOOPS on July 24, 2005, at 10:45:56
>
> Hi -
>
> How much are you taking?Hey LOOPS,
I'm using the liquid - 1 tbsp with:
One Tablespoon Provides approximately:
Fatty AcidsOmega-3 5,115 mg
Omega-6 2,330 mg
Omega-9 1,488 mg
GLA 100 mgFlax Particulates
(Lignan) 2185 mg
Isoflavones 45 mg
Other
Saponins 55 mg
Rosemary/ascorbic acid 20 mgIt's a hodge podge but seems good for me thus far. I like dosing once a day and not having to ingest softgels 6 - 8 times a day.
>
> Glad to hear it's working! I am taking borage oil once more with the fish oil, but I'm wary of anything with flax seed oil as it makes me a bit nuts (or so I perceive.....).
>
> Keep us updated - I might give it a whirl later in conjunction with fish oil.Sorry about your findings with flax. With all the experience I've had with some other oils, this is my first with flax... so far, so good. I'm determined to make a go of something as an alterative to needing to even think of having a discussion involving the term HRT. Maybe determination will help me.
Best to you,
Glydin
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