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Posted by Glydin on June 17, 2005, at 19:07:23
Seeing as the body absorbs about 500-600 mgs from any single dose - what is the shortest amount of time I can use between doses?
Input appreciated.
Posted by tealady on June 17, 2005, at 20:33:14
In reply to Shortest time frame for Ca absorption wanted, posted by Glydin on June 17, 2005, at 19:07:23
usual is every 12 hrs for effective coverage. Not sure what you're asking
Posted by Glydin on June 17, 2005, at 21:15:27
In reply to Re: Shortest time frame for Ca absorption wanted, posted by tealady on June 17, 2005, at 20:33:14
> usual is every 12 hrs for effective coverage. Not sure what you're asking
I'm sorry I wasn't clear. If I take 500mgs in the AM and take another dose 4 hours later, am I going to absorb, over time, 1,000 mgs....suppose I only wait two hours between doses? I think I'm not understanding the mechanism of absorption and assimilation. Can you help me out?Thanks
Posted by tealady on June 17, 2005, at 22:04:00
In reply to Re: Shortest time frame for Ca absorption wanted, posted by Glydin on June 17, 2005, at 21:15:27
> > usual is every 12 hrs for effective coverage. Not sure what you're asking
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> I'm sorry I wasn't clear.
no I meant it was me not doing the understanding part :-)If I take 500mgs in the AM and take another dose 4 hours later, am I going to absorb, over time, 1,000 mgs....suppose I only wait two hours between doses? I think I'm not understanding the mechanism of absorption and assimilation. Can you help me out?
absorption is like everything individual.
If you function on the hyper side it will go thru you in probably 4 hrs or so and every 4 hrs is fine..on the hypo side..probably every 2 days is fine!
..but "normal" is about 12 hrs I think.It may not hurt to take every 4 hrs, just you may waste some if you only can "absorb and use" 500mg twice a day or so.
With calcium most passes thru you, but you really don't want tooo much..like calcium kidney stones?, or changing that parathyroid feeedback stuff..so with all this its best not to take too much.
That said 1000mgs all at once is how a lot of people take it and it works fine, usually at night with say 500mg magnesium?The people I know who take it twice daily are either hyperthyroid..so it goes thru them faster,
or have problems with the parathyroid axis/osteoporisis etc. and have been told by their docs to take it like that just to ensure coverage. But for many once a day works fine.
Sorry that's about all I Know. Hope it helps.>
> Thanks
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Posted by Glydin on June 17, 2005, at 22:13:20
In reply to Re: Shortest time frame for Ca absorption wanted, posted by tealady on June 17, 2005, at 22:04:00
> Sorry that's about all I Know. Hope it helps.
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Very helpful, Thanks much tealady.I should have probably been doing the Ca thing for a while, but I just recently got a good start on it. I didn't want to waste the effects I would get from supplemental Ca and I certainly don't want to create more problems.
Thanks again for your help.
Posted by Glydin on June 18, 2005, at 20:36:08
In reply to Re: Shortest time frame for Ca absorption wanted » tealady, posted by Glydin on June 17, 2005, at 22:13:20
Might I indulge you once more?
If so.... is it absolutely essential to add in Mag when one supplements with Ca? I really don't tolerate Mag in any form I've tried it. I know it's a balance thing - can your body just adjust on it's own so the Ca isn't dominant?
I appreciate your help.
Posted by tealady on June 18, 2005, at 22:53:43
In reply to tealady, posted by Glydin on June 18, 2005, at 20:36:08
> Might I indulge you once more?
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> If so.... is it absolutely essential to add in Mag when one supplements with Ca? I really don't tolerate Mag in any form I've tried it. I know it's a balance thing - can your body just adjust on it's own so the Ca isn't dominant?
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> I appreciate your help.
>I don't feel a lot of use. I'm not thinking well at present. I just have vague memories of Mag helping the calcium (and other stuff like potassium) to get into the cells.
Lots of folk do take calcium without magnesium and they seem OK though.Your the very first person who can't tolerate magnesium..what happens ? do you have a really low blood pressure and it lowers it?
One form of magnesium that should be easy to take ..I get from the chemist. I just buy magnesium carbonate (light)..its a very lght powder. The chemist himself uses it to mix up stuff with.
then I buy pure ascorbic acid powder...from the health food store (MELrose make a good one here in Australia)
mix a little ascorbic acid (no more than 1/5 teaspoon or you might get too much vitC) with the mag. carb. in a little water..get it to fizz...that's the CO2 coming off...and you are left with magnesium ascorbate and probably some magnesium carbonate as well.
Drink this. It should absorb well and just plain mag. carb might reduce the acid in your stomach too much.
Of course if you suffer from TOO much acid in your stomach, then plain mag.carbonate mixed in something and drunk is just fine. Just a suggestion.
Interested to hear what problems mag. causes you though.
Jan
Posted by Glydin on June 19, 2005, at 13:17:06
In reply to Re: tealady » Glydin, posted by tealady on June 18, 2005, at 22:53:43
> Your the very first person who can't tolerate magnesium..what happens ? do you have a really low blood pressure and it lowers it?Hi Jan,
I'm a bit weird in my tolerance of alot of things. It's just me physically or my muttling mind messing with me. The problem I have with Mag is slight GI upset and (worse) sleepy feeling and lethergic. This pesky problem seems to happen even if the Mag is taken at night and slept on. It takes me half the next day to become awake. I've tried low doses and various forms. B/P runs fine.
Thanks for your help. So far, I'm doing well with the Ca, so I'll see how it goes.
Glydin
Posted by Tbear on June 20, 2005, at 20:38:51
In reply to Re: Shortest time frame for Ca absorption wanted, posted by tealady on June 17, 2005, at 22:04:00
I take coral calcium which has 1200 mg. calcium and 600 mg. magnesium in 6 capsules at bedtime. After trying many calcium/magnesium products. I used dolomite for years until it stopped working (my legs would cramp so bad at night.) Then I found the coral calcium product and no more leg cramps and I feel better all over.
Posted by tealady on June 21, 2005, at 1:57:20
In reply to Re: tealady, posted by Glydin on June 19, 2005, at 13:17:06
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> > Your the very first person who can't tolerate magnesium..what happens ? do you have a really low blood pressure and it lowers it?
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> Hi Jan,
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> I'm a bit weird in my tolerance of alot of things. It's just me physically or my muttling mind messing with me. The problem I have with Mag is slight GI upset and (worse) sleepy feeling and lethergic. This pesky problem seems to happen even if the Mag is taken at night and slept on. It takes me half the next day to become awake. I've tried low doses and various forms. B/P runs fine.
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> Thanks for your help. So far, I'm doing well with the Ca, so I'll see how it goes.
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> Glydinyes Mag can cause sleepiness and lethargic. I'm never sure what anyone means by GI upset :-) Haven't hard of that for magnesium but I suspect it would depend on a combo of you and the form of it.
Good luck with the calcium. A little VitD should help with calcium intake is you don't get a lot of sunlight on your skin also.
Jan
Posted by tealady on June 21, 2005, at 2:04:32
In reply to Re: Shortest time frame for Ca absorption wanted, posted by Tbear on June 20, 2005, at 20:38:51
> I take coral calcium which has 1200 mg. calcium and 600 mg. magnesium in 6 capsules at bedtime. After trying many calcium/magnesium products. I used dolomite for years until it stopped working (my legs would cramp so bad at night.) Then I found the coral calcium product and no more leg cramps and I feel better all over.
Thaks Tbear,
I used to take dolomite for years too..then found out it may contain trace amounts of lead so I'm glad you stopped that form.Coral calcium is a pretty absorbale form I guess. It plays havoc with me in making my hair fall out ..and my son's too :-) I suspect.
That's the real coral calcium as in water in Vanuatu..which is soooo strong in coral calcium you can't wash your clothes clean..and your hair is like straw..also makes one a bit tired (slows thyroid) so you feel like sleeping most the day. But yeah sure effective as far as calcium intake goes :-)Thanks for letting us know it works for you :-)
Jan
Posted by Glydin on June 21, 2005, at 8:09:29
In reply to Re: tealady » Glydin, posted by tealady on June 21, 2005, at 1:57:20
Hi Jan,
> yes Mag can cause sleepiness and lethargic.
I wish it didn't. It's my main complaint with it. I do think supplemental Mag is good idea, but alas, I just can't seem to handle it.
>I'm never sure what anyone means by GI upset :-) Haven't hard of that for magnesium but I suspect it would depend on a combo of you and the form of it.For me, the GI stuff is the lower portion effected. In other words, diarrhea (yucky word, eewww). Although my stomach doesn't love it either. I suspect fillers as a contributing problem.
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> Good luck with the calcium. A little VitD should help with calcium intake is you don't get a lot of sunlight on your skin also.It's going well so far. I got the Vit D covered and I get some sunlight but not too much - it's time for me to start NOT adding to the wrinkle collection.
Take good care,
Glydin
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