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Posted by emme on April 2, 2005, at 9:30:31
Thanks to those who posted about inositol in my earlier thread. After a 3 week trial I've bailed. I think it was making me worse. A weird mix of weak, exhausted, edgy, revved, depressed. It was worth a shot but didn't happen to pan out for me.
Perhaps I shouold revisit lecithin granules and try to get over the bad taste.
I've tried low doses of taurine on two separate days. It was more claming than I needed and it seemed to greatly increase my tiredness and my legs felt like jelly to boot. Oh well.
emme
Posted by Larry Hoover on April 2, 2005, at 11:14:36
In reply to inositol, taurine failed, posted by emme on April 2, 2005, at 9:30:31
> Thanks to those who posted about inositol in my earlier thread. After a 3 week trial I've bailed. I think it was making me worse. A weird mix of weak, exhausted, edgy, revved, depressed. It was worth a shot but didn't happen to pan out for me.
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> Perhaps I shouold revisit lecithin granules and try to get over the bad taste.
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> I've tried low doses of taurine on two separate days. It was more claming than I needed and it seemed to greatly increase my tiredness and my legs felt like jelly to boot. Oh well.
>
> emmeWhat dose of taurine?
Posted by emme on April 2, 2005, at 12:20:50
In reply to Re: inositol, taurine failed » emme, posted by Larry Hoover on April 2, 2005, at 11:14:36
> > Thanks to those who posted about inositol in my earlier thread. After a 3 week trial I've bailed. I think it was making me worse. A weird mix of weak, exhausted, edgy, revved, depressed. It was worth a shot but didn't happen to pan out for me.
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> > Perhaps I shouold revisit lecithin granules and try to get over the bad taste.
> >
> > I've tried low doses of taurine on two separate days. It was more claming than I needed and it seemed to greatly increase my tiredness and my legs felt like jelly to boot. Oh well.
> >
> > emme
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> What dose of taurine?
>
500 mg the first day, and 1,000 mg the second day. Just didn't feel right.....
Posted by LOOPS on April 2, 2005, at 15:02:42
In reply to Re: inositol, taurine failed » Larry Hoover, posted by emme on April 2, 2005, at 12:20:50
If I could take lecithin without eczema flare-ups, I would be taking it all the time with my fish oil. Really does the trick. However can't because of the eczema. Bum.
I know about the inositol and taurine. Inositol made me an emotional mess and taurine made me a tad irritable after awhile. Inositol was still good for sleep though - but I ditched it after awhile as I thought I was building a tolerance.
Good luck with whatever you try next. I would definitely find some triple lecithin caps though - then you don't have to do the taste.
Loops
Posted by tealady on April 2, 2005, at 17:43:35
In reply to Re: inositol, taurine failed » Larry Hoover, posted by emme on April 2, 2005, at 12:20:50
wow, I've ben on 500mg taurine firstthing in the morning for a couple of months now(went off for a couple of weeks then back on) and I haven't noticed much at all...maybe water retention, not sure. Hasn't rally calmed me or rrevved me up that I notice?
What's it supposed to do..calm you?
Posted by LOOPS on April 3, 2005, at 10:50:59
In reply to Re: inositol, taurine failed » emme, posted by tealady on April 2, 2005, at 17:43:35
500mg taurine isn't very much -
I think I was taking about a gram - it did have a good effect at first (calming, stabilizing). I was vegan at the time so wasn't getting any taurine from food, so was probably deficient (I don't believe I am very good at making the 'non-essential' aminos - similarly the co-enzyme vitamins).
I did disover that if too much taurine had been taken and I was feeling too 'flat', 500mg l-glutamine remedied the situation immediately.
Loops
Posted by emme on April 4, 2005, at 17:18:29
In reply to Re: inositol, taurine failed, posted by LOOPS on April 3, 2005, at 10:50:59
> 500mg taurine isn't very much -
It's the smallest cap size I saw. I suppose I could break one if I wanted to try a smaller dose.
> I think I was taking about a gram - it did have a good effect at first (calming, stabilizing). I was vegan at the time so wasn't getting any taurine from food, so was probably deficient (I don't believe I am very good at making the 'non-essential' aminos - similarly the co-enzyme vitamins).
I'm a vegetarian, but not vegan. I haven't been very careful about diet these last few years. I should be more diligent.
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> I did disover that if too much taurine had been taken and I was feeling too 'flat', 500mg l-glutamine remedied the situation immediately.Does that mean that glutamine is stimulating for you?
thanks,
emme
Posted by LOOPS on April 4, 2005, at 18:24:36
In reply to Re: inositol, taurine failed » LOOPS, posted by emme on April 4, 2005, at 17:18:29
yes, glutamine does seem to be a mental energizer for me initially. It is used to make GABA though (eventually) - M. Lesser recommends in his book to support glutamine with taurine and B6 to make more of this.
I initially found out it was energizing when I took it with some inositol. At the time the two went well together - didn't last though - the inositol eventually disrupted my mood stability completely, and the glutamine must have overburdened a pathway in my brain because it started to make me a bit nuts.
I don't notice much effect from it these days after being on the fish oil for so long - like most things, my hypersensitivity seems to have calmed down to things.
I have come to believe that lithium orotate is kind of the antithesis of inositol. My mood swings were initially totally releived from the inositol by the lithium. Inositol can be quite euphoric and unbalancing where as lithium orotate is very grounding.
Loops
Posted by Larry Hoover on April 10, 2005, at 10:42:38
In reply to inositol, taurine failed, posted by emme on April 2, 2005, at 9:30:31
> Thanks to those who posted about inositol in my earlier thread. After a 3 week trial I've bailed. I think it was making me worse. A weird mix of weak, exhausted, edgy, revved, depressed. It was worth a shot but didn't happen to pan out for me.
Sounds like you took too much, for your specific body.
> Perhaps I shouold revisit lecithin granules and try to get over the bad taste.
Bad taste? They are a perishable commodity. Bad taste would indicate rancidity, I would think. Find a better source for fresh product. It ought to be in a store's refrigerated section, and in yours at home.
> I've tried low doses of taurine on two separate days. It was more claming than I needed and it seemed to greatly increase my tiredness and my legs felt like jelly to boot. Oh well.
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> emmeAgain, too high a dose. You can use a hammer gently. Cut the dose.
Lar
Posted by Larry Hoover on April 10, 2005, at 10:45:02
In reply to Re: inositol, taurine failed, posted by LOOPS on April 3, 2005, at 10:50:59
> 500mg taurine isn't very much -
>
> I think I was taking about a gram - it did have a good effect at first (calming, stabilizing). I was vegan at the time so wasn't getting any taurine from food, so was probably deficient (I don't believe I am very good at making the 'non-essential' aminos - similarly the co-enzyme vitamins).
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> I did disover that if too much taurine had been taken and I was feeling too 'flat', 500mg l-glutamine remedied the situation immediately.
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> LoopsInteresting. Glutamine can go directly to glutamate. Glutamate and taurine are direct and mutual antagonists. One cancels the other.
Lar
Posted by LOOPS on April 12, 2005, at 9:30:25
In reply to Re: inositol, taurine failed » LOOPS, posted by Larry Hoover on April 10, 2005, at 10:45:02
> > 500mg taurine isn't very much -
> >
> > I think I was taking about a gram - it did have a good effect at first (calming, stabilizing). I was vegan at the time so wasn't getting any taurine from food, so was probably deficient (I don't believe I am very good at making the 'non-essential' aminos - similarly the co-enzyme vitamins).
> >
> > I did disover that if too much taurine had been taken and I was feeling too 'flat', 500mg l-glutamine remedied the situation immediately.
> >
> > Loops
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> Interesting. Glutamine can go directly to glutamate. Glutamate and taurine are direct and mutual antagonists. One cancels the other.
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> Lar
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> yes it's interesting -Michael Lesser goes on in his book about using taurine and glutamine together along with B6 and zinc. I assume this is because glutamine will eventually make GABA which would complement the calming action of taurine?
Loops
Posted by Larry Hoover on April 14, 2005, at 21:52:53
In reply to Re: inositol, taurine failed, posted by LOOPS on April 12, 2005, at 9:30:25
> Michael Lesser goes on in his book about using taurine and glutamine together along with B6 and zinc. I assume this is because glutamine will eventually make GABA which would complement the calming action of taurine?
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> LoopsYes, glutamine serves as a GABA precursor, and taurine upregulates GABA production. I'll presume the enzyme itself uses zinc and B6.
Lar
Lar
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