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Posted by Ame Sans Vie on November 14, 2003, at 13:02:22
http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2002/4/15/103358/720
The link above describes this form of "power-sleeping" that I'm considering trying. It'd be great to get by on four hours or so of sleep a day, and I've long found that sleep deprivation puts me in a great mood -- Tuesday night, for example, I didn't sleep at all (I was working on my alternative remedies website that I'll be posting to PB-Tips). Wednesday I felt on top of the world... I just wonder if there may be something to this idea and if anyone has any opinions. Thanks!
Posted by Franz on November 14, 2003, at 19:37:16
In reply to Uberman's Sleep Cycle -- thinking of trying it, posted by Ame Sans Vie on November 14, 2003, at 13:02:22
> http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2002/4/15/103358/720
>
> The link above describes this form of "power-sleeping" that I'm considering trying. It'd be great to get by on four hours or so of sleep a day, and I've long found that sleep deprivation puts me in a great mood -- Tuesday night, for example, I didn't sleep at all (I was working on my alternative remedies website that I'll be posting to PB-Tips). Wednesday I felt on top of the world... I just wonder if there may be something to this idea and if anyone has any opinions. Thanks!Hi, I did not read the website you posted yet, but sleep deprivation is an old resource for depression, I read about it long ago I do not know if in a website or in a book.
I am not sure if a reduced sleep time will have similar effects.
Which is the address of your website?.
Thanks
Posted by Kacy on November 14, 2003, at 19:52:52
In reply to Re: Uberman's Sleep Cycle -- thinking of trying it » Ame Sans Vie, posted by Franz on November 14, 2003, at 19:37:16
I don't know why, but sleep deprivation puts me in a better mood, too.
However, that may be sleep deprivation that comes from working long and hard at something, like your late night on the website. Does that element matter, Ame?
Does food deprivation work? Not eating gives me a lot of extra energy, too.
Posted by Ame Sans Vie on November 14, 2003, at 21:27:18
In reply to Re: Uberman's Sleep Cycle -- thinking of trying it » Ame Sans Vie, posted by Franz on November 14, 2003, at 19:37:16
I read about the sleep-deprivation/depression correlation quite a while back... it's intriguing, to say the least. I'm going to have to do some research into the area as I'd really love to know what mechanisms are at work that make this so effective.
I'm still hard at work on my website and it'll be a while before I publish it -- I want to assure myself that no proverbial stone is left unturned. I'm looking very in-depth at some of the alternative-therapy roads-less-traveled, such as reiki, crystal healing, biofeedback, brain wave entrainment, transcendental meditation, self-hypnosis, shamanism, ganzfeld, color therapy, et al, in addition to the more common herbs, supplements, homeopathic remedies, acupuncture/pressure, oriental medicine, and ayurvedic medicine. There's going to be an enormous amount of detail on each of these subjects available as well as safety information, history, etc. I hope to have a book in the works when all is said and done. I just want to feel confident that the site is completely up to my high expectations before it moves from Microsoft FrontPage to the web for all to see. ;-)
Posted by Ame Sans Vie on November 14, 2003, at 21:46:52
In reply to Works for me, too., posted by Kacy on November 14, 2003, at 19:52:52
> However, that may be sleep deprivation that comes from working long and hard at something, like your late night on the website. Does that element matter, Ame?
Actually, I think you have something there. Occasionally when I go without sleep for a night I'm dead to the world the whole next day... it does seem that all the times I've felt increased energy/stamina/creativity and improved mood were times that I pulled an all-nighter working on whatever project I was into at the moment. I know when I stay up all night writing songs on my guitar and recording them, for example, I'm on top of the world the next day; if I just lie in bed watching TV all night, I'm feeling like crap by 8:00 AM, lol.
> Does food deprivation work? Not eating gives me a lot of extra energy, too.
I feel full of energy when I avoid carbs completely... it's been a long time since I've fasted, and I can't really recall how I felt during that time. Cutting out the carbs definitely works for me, though, as it apparently does for a lot of people, according to Dr. Atkins. In "Dr. Atkins' New Diet Revolution" he mentions that during the first two days of commitment to a restricted carbohydrate diet a lot of people feel spacey and exhausted while their body is burning up their glycogen stores. Once in a state of ketosis though, mood elevation (often to the point of euphoria) is very common. All of my friends and family who've tried low-carb dieting have noticed a definite increase in energy and mood.
Posted by JLx on November 15, 2003, at 7:14:00
In reply to Uberman's Sleep Cycle -- thinking of trying it, posted by Ame Sans Vie on November 14, 2003, at 13:02:22
> http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2002/4/15/103358/720
>
> The link above describes this form of "power-sleeping" that I'm considering trying. It'd be great to get by on four hours or so of sleep a day, and I've long found that sleep deprivation puts me in a great mood -- Tuesday night, for example, I didn't sleep at all (I was working on my alternative remedies website that I'll be posting to PB-Tips). Wednesday I felt on top of the world... I just wonder if there may be something to this idea and if anyone has any opinions. Thanks!Well, since you asked ;)...I think it's a very bad idea, particularly for anyone with sensitive brain chemistry. Who knows what it will do, and if you'd recognize the detriments when they are happening? Melatonin is something that normal people can take, for instance, but generally not well tolerated by depressives.
Did you see this guy's post? http://www.kuro5hin.org/comments/2002/4/15/103358/720/80#80 and his references: http://www.kuro5hin.org/comments/2002/4/15/103358/720/136#136 If not life threatening, how about prematurely aging?
I used to hate that I had to sleep so much when I was young to feel good, and regarded my middle-aged sleep patterns to be a welcome change until I read an explanation -- excess cortisol circulating all the time instead of rising and falling throughout the day or in demand to actual need. This doesn't FEEL so bad, but physically it IS bad. (You accumulate fat around the middle for one thing.) What's happening to other hormones? Could long terms sleep deprivation be similar to aging? This is not something you want to accelerate! :)
Posted by Larry Hoover on November 15, 2003, at 8:05:18
In reply to Uberman's Sleep Cycle -- thinking of trying it, posted by Ame Sans Vie on November 14, 2003, at 13:02:22
> http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2002/4/15/103358/720
>
> The link above describes this form of "power-sleeping" that I'm considering trying. It'd be great to get by on four hours or so of sleep a day, and I've long found that sleep deprivation puts me in a great mood -- Tuesday night, for example, I didn't sleep at all (I was working on my alternative remedies website that I'll be posting to PB-Tips). Wednesday I felt on top of the world... I just wonder if there may be something to this idea and if anyone has any opinions. Thanks!Sounds much like what Buckminster Fuller did. I think somebody stole his idea.
Lar
Posted by JLx on November 21, 2003, at 10:35:47
In reply to Uberman's Sleep Cycle -- thinking of trying it, posted by Ame Sans Vie on November 14, 2003, at 13:02:22
> http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2002/4/15/103358/720
>
> The link above describes this form of "power-sleeping" that I'm considering trying. It'd be great to get by on four hours or so of sleep a day, and I've long found that sleep deprivation puts me in a great mood -- Tuesday night, for example, I didn't sleep at all (I was working on my alternative remedies website that I'll be posting to PB-Tips). Wednesday I felt on top of the world... I just wonder if there may be something to this idea and if anyone has any opinions. Thanks!I get Dr. Mercola's newsletter and this article was in a recent one,
Good Night's Sleep Essential for Immune System http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&u=/nm/20031028/hl_nm/sleep_immunity_dc
He also notes these:
Get Enough Sleep to Avoid Diabetes http://mercola.com/2003/mar/8/sleep_diabetes.htm
Too Little Sleep May Accelerate Aging http://mercola.com/1999/archive/sleep_and_aging.htm
Lack of Sleep Affects Hormone Levels http://mercola.com/2000/sept/3/sleep_hormones.htm
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