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Posted by jamestheyonger on January 28, 2006, at 16:12:24
In reply to Please be civil: flmm, willyee, jamestheyonger, posted by gardenergirl on January 27, 2006, at 19:29:54
I am voting with my feet.
> jamestheyonger
> >This sounds more like denial than instinct, to me.
Posted by yxibow on January 28, 2006, at 16:12:25
In reply to This board is repressively and poorly moderated, posted by jamestheyonger on January 27, 2006, at 20:58:54
> I am voting with my feet.
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> > jamestheyonger
> > >This sounds more like denial than instinct, to me.
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I would stand to agree, it is somewhat poorly moderated and whatever the moderator says about "pill popper", that is a highly offensive term to most people on here, including me.. I juggle lets see.. 6... I've lost count, medications a day. Polypharmacy. There is no cure in a jar, but there is a sense of content that can be reached through medication and therapy that allows us to do the things in life that we couldn't do without it -- they are not crutches... they are valuable resources with known side effects and different experiences among people.
I will go further, and it seems to me obvious, that this entire thread has been started.. and please dont mark me with a civil statement, a "troll" remark from the beginning. A superinflated argument is presented, with a known outcome of 25 following messages each with their own feelings towards the original messenger. This has been known since the dawn of internet messaging, Usenet. Someone posts "the sky is falling, and the messiah is coming" (this is an example, no offense to religions meant), and then 25 arguments follow.Let us all be civil, but recognize what this entire thread is what it is, a troll argument. For those who want to believe in alternative treatments or no treatments, that's fine. That isn't this section of the board.
To good thoughts and amity
Tidings and cheers
-- Jay
Posted by linkadge on January 28, 2006, at 16:12:25
In reply to Dont do it!!!!, posted by Daniela23 on January 27, 2006, at 8:44:17
Am I not allowed to tell somebody they insulted me? I thought I did it in a fairly civil manner.
I personally thought the following words might be offensive to many people on the site.
"or lo! your 'illness' might even deteriorate"
Because it basically tells everybody here that their illness is fabricated.
Linkadge
Posted by gardenergirl on January 28, 2006, at 16:31:48
In reply to I don't understand, posted by linkadge on January 28, 2006, at 8:44:01
> Am I not allowed to tell somebody they insulted me?
There is a difference between saying, "I am insulted" and saying, "Your words (or quoting someone's words) are insulting."
The former is an "I" statement, and expresses your feeling/response. The latter characterizes someone's behavior as insulting, and is thus, not considered civil under site guidelines.
Regards,
gg
Posted by gardenergirl on January 28, 2006, at 16:48:15
In reply to Re: This board is repressively and poorly moderate » jamestheyonger, posted by yxibow on January 27, 2006, at 23:47:41
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> Let us all be civil, but recognize what this entire thread is what it is, a troll argument.I realize you asked to avoid this, and I appreciate your suggestion about remaining civil. However, please don't post anything that could lead someone to feel accused.
If you or others have questions about this or about posting policies in general, or are interested in alternative ways of expressing yourself, please see the FAQ:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#civilFollow-ups regarding these issues, as well as replies to the above post, should of course themselves be civil.
Thanks,
gg acting as deputy for Dr. Bob
Posted by Etienne78 on January 30, 2006, at 0:02:15
In reply to Re: please be civil » Etienne78 » fenix, posted by Dr. Bob on January 29, 2006, at 8:38:24
> > many of you seem quite irritable at a question of semantics.
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> > Etienne
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> > you are taking the easy way out.
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> > fenix
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> Please don't post anything that could lead others to feel accused or put down.
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> And please don't take this personally, this doesn't mean I don't like you or think you're a bad person.
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> If you or others have questions about this or about posting policies in general, or are interested in alternative ways of expressing yourself, please see the FAQ:
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> http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#civil
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> Follow-ups regarding these issues should be redirected to Psycho-Babble Administration. They, as well as replies to the above posts, should of course themselves be civil.
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> Thanks,
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> BobDear Dr. Bob,
Thank you for your post. Unfortunately, i have to disagree with you. I do not believe i accused anybody. Several posts responding to Daniela23 were clearly breaking the rules stated in your FAQ regarding being civil. Examples below.
***Please respect the views of others even if you think they're wrong. Please be sensitive to their feelings even if yours are hurt. Different points of view are fine, and in fact encouraged, but your freedom of speech is limited here. It can be therapeutic to express yourself, but this isn't necessarily the place.
Please don't be sarcastic, treat injury or death lightly, suggest that others harm (or use this site to exchange information that could be used to harm) themselves or others, jump to conclusions about others, post anything that could lead others to feel accused or put down, harass or pressure others, use language that could offend others, disclose without permission information that identifies or private communications from another poster, post information that you know to be false, exaggerate or overgeneralize -- etc. Even if you're quoting someone else.
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posted by flmm:
Yes, were all very proud of you that you don't need medication! Something tells me you wish you were on it, then maybe you would feel betterposted by willyee:
HOW DARE YOU use the term PILL POPPRERS,THIS personaly is one of the MOST insulting things i can be told.I was stating that other posters were acting very irritably. As you can see. So, in all fairness, they were acusing the original poster. i was just telling them to chill out.
Sound good.
Peace be with you,
Etienne
Posted by Dr. Bob on January 30, 2006, at 0:06:12
In reply to Re: please be civil, posted by Etienne78 on January 29, 2006, at 18:30:55
> i have to disagree with you. I do not believe i accused anybody.
> I was stating that other posters were acting very irritably.
That's what I thought, wasn't that accusing them of being irritable?
Bob
Posted by Etienne78 on January 31, 2006, at 5:06:40
In reply to Re: accused, posted by Dr. Bob on January 30, 2006, at 0:06:12
> > i have to disagree with you. I do not believe i accused anybody.
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> > I was stating that other posters were acting very irritably.
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> That's what I thought, wasn't that accusing them of being irritable?
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> BobNo, that is not an accusation. It is a point of view based on very visible facts. My wife has a PHD in Literature, it is not an accusation but a subjective interpretation of their tone which is quite clearly aggressive.
Thank you and have a good day!
Posted by Dinah on January 31, 2006, at 9:08:33
In reply to Re: accused » Dr. Bob, posted by Etienne78 on January 31, 2006, at 5:06:40
Under Babble guidelines this apparently falls under what Dr. Bob considers an accusation, and is an unallowable form of discourse on his site. Semantics aside, since it is his forum, he can block you for statements that could be seen as negative comments about another poster or their posts after a prior warning, and it fits with site guidelines to instead talk about your own feelings or reactions to someone else's comments.
I suppose whether a given statement is negative is also open to interpretation, and once Dr. Bob has given his interpretation it's perfectly ok to argue the point, but not to repeat the statement unless you can get him to agree with you. (Which is just a friendly warning since characterizing posters' tones might be seen by Dr. Bob as repeating the statement, which generally leads to escalating administrative consequences on Babble.)
For more information on site guidelines, you might want to peruse the FAQ. :)
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