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Posted by Brio D Chimp on June 30, 2003, at 14:20:21
I explained that a poster was given a 2 week block for threatening to kill another poster while a poster was given 16 weeks for using the word Drippy which you thought resembled another poster's name. He wants to know how many weeks would you block a poster if he actually killed one of your other posters?
I naturally assumed it would merit a PBC if it was a first offence and week if it was a second or third offence. He found this difficult to understand. Was I correct? Or is it irrelevant unless said poster posts about the murder in an uncivil fashion?
Thank you
Posted by NikkiT2 on June 30, 2003, at 16:40:20
In reply to Relaying question from MD re blocking policies, posted by Brio D Chimp on June 30, 2003, at 14:20:21
If you read the FAQ you would know that the block is not dependent on the offence.. but it is dependent on how many times you have already been blocked.. the block starts at one week and doubles each time you get blocked again.
Nikki
Posted by stjames on June 30, 2003, at 17:07:06
In reply to Relaying question from MD re blocking policies, posted by Brio D Chimp on June 30, 2003, at 14:20:21
He wants to know how many weeks would you block a poster if he actually killed one of your other posters?
Jail time for murder, most likly no internet access at all.
Posted by Brio D Chimp on June 30, 2003, at 18:00:42
In reply to Re: Relaying question from MD re blocking policies, posted by stjames on June 30, 2003, at 17:07:06
> He wants to know how many weeks would you block a poster if he actually killed one of your other posters?
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> Jail time for murder, most likly no internet access at all.
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Thanks for replying. I think his point was how disproportionate the "sentences" were.He did tell me to ask but I'm not sure he really expected me to :0) And certainly I am way beyond expecting Bob's policies to seem logical to anyone outside the PB realm. It's really hard to explain to someone who hasn't experienced it.
I've wondered if people in jails have internet access. If they do how many weeks should the murderer be blocked if any?
Thanks for answering.
Posted by stjames on June 30, 2003, at 18:07:35
In reply to Re: Relaying question from MD re blocking policies » stjames, posted by Brio D Chimp on June 30, 2003, at 18:00:42
> > He wants to know how many weeks would you block a poster if he actually killed one of your other posters?
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> > Jail time for murder, most likly no internet access at all.
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> Thanks for replying. I think his point was how disproportionate the "sentences" were.
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> He did tell me to ask but I'm not sure he really expected me to :0) And certainly I am way beyond expecting Bob's policies to seem logical to anyone outside the PB realm. It's really hard to explain to someone who hasn't experienced it.See the FAQ
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> I've wondered if people in jails have internet access. If they do how many weeks should the murderer be blocked if any?Who cares !
Posted by Brio D Chimp on June 30, 2003, at 19:08:09
In reply to Re: Relaying question from MD re blocking policies, posted by stjames on June 30, 2003, at 18:07:35
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> > He did tell me to ask but I'm not sure he really expected me to :0) And certainly I am way beyond expecting Bob's policies to seem logical to anyone outside the PB realm. It's really hard to explain to someone who hasn't experienced it.
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> See the FAQ
I have :)
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> > I've wondered if people in jails have internet access. If they do how many weeks should the murderer be blocked if any?
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> Who cares !> I do! It raises a number of interesting legal and ethical questions. And stretches my mind! Intellectual curiosity is a good thing for me![Remember curious George was a monkey! ] And My Doc asked the question so I guess he cared! Thanks for changing your mind about posting to me! Perhaps we'll meet again someday on an issue you care about!
Brio D Chimp
Posted by shar on June 30, 2003, at 19:40:21
In reply to Re: Relaying question from MD re blocking policies » stjames, posted by Brio D Chimp on June 30, 2003, at 19:08:09
Interesting that a chimpanalyst would want to know at all. I am assuming that you are his only client that communicates to humans, and, secretly, I believe you to be a human in a chimp suit.
However, as you said, curious is a good way to be, keeps one active, but sometimes annoying, as well. Not that you are annoying, of course, just that curious people--kids, for example--pulling on your shirt all the time for attention or answers to unanswerable questions, can be very annoying. Just the physicality of it, if nothing else.
If one poster murdered another, which is a grisly and most distressing thought, I would hope they would be banned from the Babbles for life. Things are, above all else, I believe, handled on a case-by-case basis. So far, the Babbles do not resemble a rigid, rule-bound, strict, over-regulated place to be (like some government agencies in the U.S., for example, where 50-cents over the limit means you don't get medical help or food stamps), at least imho.
Shar
Posted by stjames on June 30, 2003, at 20:09:07
In reply to Re: Relaying question from MD re blocking policies » stjames, posted by Brio D Chimp on June 30, 2003, at 19:08:09
Thanks for changing your mind about posting to me! Perhaps we'll meet again someday on an issue you care about!
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> Brio D Chimp
>Because you made sence to me, I posted.
Posted by noa on June 30, 2003, at 20:16:09
In reply to Relaying question from MD re blocking policies, posted by Brio D Chimp on June 30, 2003, at 14:20:21
>He wants to know how many weeks would you block a poster if he actually killed one of your other posters?
This post really scares me. I find it very upsetting and frightening.
Posted by Brio D Chimp on June 30, 2003, at 20:21:30
In reply to Re: Relaying question from MD re blocking policies, posted by noa on June 30, 2003, at 20:16:09
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> This post really scares me. I find it very upsetting and frightening.NOA He asked that in response to my telling him that Bob had blocked a poster for TWO WEEKS for threatening to kill another poster. He couldn't believe it and neither did I! I found THAT frightening and upsetting.
I hope that clears up the context for you. Sorry you were upset!
Posted by Brio D Chimp on June 30, 2003, at 20:26:47
In reply to Re: Relaying question from MD re blocking policies, posted by shar on June 30, 2003, at 19:40:21
> Interesting that a chimpanalyst would want to know at all.
Babble has been the topic of the week that's for sure!!
So far, the Babbles do not resemble a rigid, rule-bound, strict, over-regulated place to be
that's exactly how I see it except it's also erratic and unpredictable!
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Posted by stjames on June 30, 2003, at 20:37:22
In reply to Re: Relaying question from MD re blocking policies, posted by noa on June 30, 2003, at 20:16:09
> >He wants to know how many weeks would you block a poster if he actually killed one of your other posters?
Perhaps it is time for the police to get involved,
if you have knowlage of a poster wanting to kill another poster.
Posted by Brio D Chimp on June 30, 2003, at 20:41:53
In reply to Re: Relaying question from MD re blocking policies, posted by stjames on June 30, 2003, at 20:37:22
> > >He wants to know how many weeks would you block a poster if he actually killed one of your other posters?
>
> Perhaps it is time for the police to get involved,
> if you have knowlage of a poster wanting to kill another poster.
See Belowhttp://www.dr-bob.org/babble/social/20030617/msgs/236958.html
Posted by stjames on June 30, 2003, at 21:17:02
In reply to Re: Relaying question from MD re blocking policies » stjames, posted by Brio D Chimp on June 30, 2003, at 20:41:53
Goodbye, Chimp.
Posted by Brio D Chimp on June 30, 2003, at 21:23:20
In reply to Re: Relaying question from MD re blocking policies, posted by stjames on June 30, 2003, at 21:17:02
Posted by Brio D Chimp on June 30, 2003, at 21:53:15
In reply to Re: Relaying question from MD re blocking policies, posted by noa on June 30, 2003, at 20:16:09
> > This post really scares me. I find it very upsetting and frightening.
Noa have you seen the original threat post ? I find it horrid.It features a picture of a gun made out of letters. I just saw it tonight. I had only read the post where Bob banned her for two weeks. I hope this will be the end of my posting on Babble forever. Life is worth something and I have sympathy for the distress of others but what was bob thinking leaving something like that posted? I apologize for putting the question in a light hearted manner. It is truly repugnant to me and I should have been more direct. It's how I handle my distress.
I'm not angry at VLS! I'm angry at bob for the way he handled it.
I wish I had never ever found Babble or participated in it although there were certainly a lot of good and kind and wise and funny people here and I wish you well but I really want to leave forever this time. I am totally creeped out. I know it's my responsibility to stay away and it won't be easy but I'm going to do it! (I just erased "try":)I have to compose my incivil Ban me Bob post and then I'm off!
Brio D Chimp et al hearts you to the best of their ability and wish you all a good life!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by mair on July 1, 2003, at 12:29:06
In reply to Upset and Frightened and Leaving Forever , posted by Brio D Chimp on June 30, 2003, at 21:53:15
I'm sorry you feel that you have to leave, but I don't entirely understand where this thread really came from. If you presented to your therapist that vls's threat was serious, then I can understand the feelings of outrage at Bob's response. But really, go back and take a look - no one took vls's words seriously, including, presumably and most importantly, those who knew her and were possibly the target of her threats. And under no possible construction, could you be thought to be the target of this threat. So it's not quite clear to me why you're scared now, 6 or 7 days later.
We could all get a little unhinged trying to find total consistency in Bob's posting policies, but it seems to be that as a general rule, he is more likely to come down on a poster who has posted something which puts down another poster or which is calculated to hurt someone's feelings. He did block vls for making such an emotionally charged statement, but I really think vls's statement fell into the "angry ranting against the world" category, and judging by the reactions of other posters, I think others took it the same way. I'm sure if the intended recipient found this to be a genuine threat, Bob's reaction would have seemed more appropriate to you.
Mair
Posted by Brio D Chimp on July 1, 2003, at 12:50:55
In reply to Re: Upset and Frightened and Leaving Forever , posted by mair on July 1, 2003, at 12:29:06
> I'm sorry you feel that you have to leave, but I don't entirely understand where this thread really came from. If you presented to your therapist that vls's threat was serious, then I can understand the feelings of outrage at Bob's response. But really, go back and take a look - no one took vls's words seriously, including, presumably and most importantly, those who knew her and were possibly the target of her threats. And under no possible construction, could you be thought to be the target of this threat. So it's not quite clear to me why you're scared now, 6 or 7 days later.
That's a good point I was just more rolling my eyes like there goes bob again and my MD asked that question . But I really wasn't really freaked out until I read Noa's post
> w>He wants to know how many weeks would you block a poster if he actually killed one of your other posters?This post really scares me. I find it very upsetting and frightening.
Noa is always so level headed I thought if she is upset and frightened I should be too! So I got a little over emotional espescially after I went back and looked at the original post which looked like a diagram of a gun. I'm much less emotional the morning after the night before of course.I had also e-mailed bob earlier about a personal matter somewhat connected with this and he had never gotten back to me. So that added to my tension.
So that's why although it's emotional more than rational. And I'm not as much frightened this morning as just creeped out and had enough. And I still think death threats should be removed from the board even if they are jokes or not in bob's opinion serious.Thanks for taking the time to ask.I really appreciate that.And thanks for giving me your asessment of the situation. I trust your perceptions. They were very helpful
> We could all get a little unhinged trying to find total consistency in Bob's posting policies, but it seems to be that as a general rule, he is more likely to come down on a poster who has posted something which puts down another poster or which is calculated to hurt someone's feelings. He did block vls for making such an emotionally charged statement, but I really think vls's statement fell into the "angry ranting against the world" category, and judging by the reactions of other posters, I think others took it the same way. I'm sure if the intended recipient found this to be a genuine threat, Bob's reaction would have seemed more appropriate to you.
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> Mair
Posted by noa on July 1, 2003, at 22:02:55
In reply to Upset and Frightened and Leaving Forever , posted by Brio D Chimp on June 30, 2003, at 21:53:15
I am still confused. I did not see the post with the image of a gun. I did see the post with a threat--the one that got the poster blocked.
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/social/20030617/msgs/236958.htmlForgive my confusion--it is hard for me to follow this thread. But, is what you are trying to say that the poster who threatened should be blocked for longer than 2 weeks?
Posted by noa on July 1, 2003, at 22:06:18
In reply to Re: Upset and Frightened and Leaving Forever » mair, posted by Brio D Chimp on July 1, 2003, at 12:50:55
I'm sorry I frightened you by my fear. What scared me was the question about how many weeks does someone get for killing someone. I hadn't understood the context and thought it was a scary question.
I don't see the diagram of the gun, though.
Posted by stjames on July 2, 2003, at 10:17:55
In reply to Re: Upset and Frightened and Leaving Forever , posted by noa on July 1, 2003, at 22:02:55
> I am still confused.
How likely is it that people who think they are
chimpanzees will post things that are easy to understand ? On even can be understood ?
Posted by Dinah on July 2, 2003, at 10:40:34
In reply to Re: Upset and Frightened and Leaving Forever , posted by stjames on July 2, 2003, at 10:17:55
Could we please leave Brio alone? She's been blocked and has, in my not terribly humble opinion, been insulted enough for the time being.
Posted by stjames on July 2, 2003, at 12:36:43
In reply to Re: Upset and Frightened and Leaving Forever , posted by Dinah on July 2, 2003, at 10:40:34
> Could we please leave Brio alone? She's been blocked and has, in my not terribly humble opinion, been insulted enough for the time being.
I was not insulting, it is very hard to understand this person.
This is the end of the thread.
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