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Posted by Phil on December 18, 2002, at 12:38:31
I love these boards-two days ago was 4 years that I've been here. I am getting down myself because of so many suicide posts. Not because of the posts themselves, moreso because there's not a damn thing I can do except type.
Recently, being told bt email that I was nice to try and help, now go away.
I'm not responding anymore to these cries for help. Most don't want to hear it or are uncapable of hearing it.
I understand the issue, having been there a few times but if I were going to kill myself, nobody here would ever know. You wouldn't get advance warning.
You know that people don't really want to die when they post that they want to die. If I want to die, it's very easy. I do carbon monoxide or blow my brains out...done deal. No use thinking of the best way, I think it would be most unpleasant by any method.
Why does this treatable illness take so many, so young, so clueless. I pray for those that are hurting and I pray that I can stop hurting myself.Had to get that out of my system. It isn't aimed at anyone but at everyone hurting so bad that all they want is to be dead for Christmas.
How many suicides could be saved by just getting people to care just enough to say Help me. And then let us try to help.
I'm down today myself so this may come across wrong.
Posted by NikkiT2 on December 18, 2002, at 15:20:21
In reply to Suicidal people everywhere, posted by Phil on December 18, 2002, at 12:38:31
I know just how you'r efeeling Phil... it seems to be everywhere at the moment...
*hugs ya*
Tis all i can do
Nikki
Posted by shar on December 21, 2002, at 0:00:46
In reply to Suicidal people everywhere, posted by Phil on December 18, 2002, at 12:38:31
I think I get it, Phil. And I'm with you about the advance warnings...phooey on that.
This time of year, especially is so hard on folks, and MOST do seem to make it through ok. I understand the frustration of pulling oneself out of depression to try to help, and not being able to have much impact. The good part is that you may help more than you know, even if it doesn't look like it.
I hope YOU are ok over these joyous upcoming holidays....yes, sarcasm. Not about the you part, about the joyous part.
xoxo
Shar
Posted by Phil on December 21, 2002, at 7:47:39
In reply to Re: Suicidal people everywhere » Phil, posted by shar on December 21, 2002, at 0:00:46
I won't see a soul, I don't watch TV so I don't really get depressed about Christmas too bad. Tv is the guilt machine.
It's just another day.
Posted by noa on December 24, 2002, at 20:53:35
In reply to Re: Suicidal people everywhere » shar, posted by Phil on December 21, 2002, at 7:47:39
Hey, Phil. Hope you're feeling a bit better than you were a few days ago.
I can relate to that frustration. Sometimes it's important to take care of yourself first--someone here used the analogy once of the oxygen mask on the airplane--gotta put your own on first if you are to be of any help to others.
If you gotta pull back from responding to people who seem to be rejecting the help, then pull back. But like Shar said--it doesn't mean that what you offered was of no value. If nothing else, there are probably other people reading who never chime in who benefit from what you've said.
Posted by kath on December 24, 2002, at 21:43:17
In reply to Suicidal people everywhere, posted by Phil on December 18, 2002, at 12:38:31
Phil, I don't know you all that well, but to me, you seem like one tremendously sweet, sensitive, caring, loving person. It sure 'ain't fair' that such a person is sad.
How I wish I could magically help everyone who feels so badly.
((((((((((((((Phil))))))))))))))) You deserve hugs, & love & probably most of all - appreciation. I hope there are lots of people who appreciate you. I suspect there are lots of us here!
you're in my thoughts, Phil.
luv, Kath xoxoxo
> I love these boards-two days ago was 4 years that I've been here. I am getting down myself because of so many suicide posts. Not because of the posts themselves, moreso because there's not a damn thing I can do except type.
> Recently, being told bt email that I was nice to try and help, now go away.
> I'm not responding anymore to these cries for help. Most don't want to hear it or are uncapable of hearing it.
> I understand the issue, having been there a few times but if I were going to kill myself, nobody here would ever know. You wouldn't get advance warning.
> You know that people don't really want to die when they post that they want to die. If I want to die, it's very easy. I do carbon monoxide or blow my brains out...done deal. No use thinking of the best way, I think it would be most unpleasant by any method.
> Why does this treatable illness take so many, so young, so clueless. I pray for those that are hurting and I pray that I can stop hurting myself.
>
> Had to get that out of my system. It isn't aimed at anyone but at everyone hurting so bad that all they want is to be dead for Christmas.
>
> How many suicides could be saved by just getting people to care just enough to say Help me. And then let us try to help.
>
> I'm down today myself so this may come across wrong.
Posted by kath on December 24, 2002, at 21:47:55
In reply to Re: Suicidal people everywhere, posted by noa on December 24, 2002, at 20:53:35
P.S. - I feel awkward & clumsy & unfeeling for saying "merry christmas". Sorry if I offended anyone.
I think I'm partly saying it a fair bit lately, because I live in Canada & we Canadians are TOTALLY paranoid about being "politically correct". Lord help us -------- we might offend someone by saying "Merry Christmas" - since it indicates a particular religion & oh dear, we might offend someone of another religion, etc.
Some stores are actually insisting that their employees say "Happy Holidays" & don't dare say "Merry Christmas". Jeez!
Anyway - sorry for the rant.
The thing I wish us all most, is peace & contentment.
Kath
Posted by harry b. on December 29, 2002, at 22:14:25
In reply to Re: Suicidal people everywhere » Phil, posted by NikkiT2 on December 18, 2002, at 15:20:21
Hello again. I just read the above thread. I believe
there is a big difference between "feeling suicidal" and
actually saying that one is going to commit suicide. As the
first poster said, I'd just do it. I'd probably make one or 2
phone calls, not to say I'm going to do it, but to
thank those who have been kind to me & have done
something to help others.Other than that, it would be a done deal. No "attempts".
This is the only thread I've read & I see 3 names that are familiar.
Hello all.
harry
Posted by Phil on December 30, 2002, at 6:51:33
In reply to Re: Suicidal people everywhere, posted by harry b. on December 29, 2002, at 22:14:25
You've been gone a while.
I really don't want to kill myself and won't. BUT, if something drastic changed, I'm in the 'no attempts" camp too.
How have things been for you?
I'm glad you're back!
Phil
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