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Posted by want info on April 13, 2004, at 9:15:14
In reply to RE::: Increase » mystic, posted by KathrynLex on April 12, 2004, at 23:27:10
hey guys. i dont mean to offend anyone with this at all but i believe that weight gain associated with ssri's often has to do more with the mood of the patient than the drug. severe anxiety or depression can cause people to lose weight. they then gain it back when they start feeling better. i was on paxil for what seemed like forever and is supposed to be one of the worst for weight gain and didn't gain any...so far on lex i can't tell yet. just my 2 cents!!
hope everyone is well...EM
Posted by LynneDa on April 13, 2004, at 9:31:19
In reply to INVITATIONS, posted by Anakin on April 12, 2004, at 22:17:23
Hi Anakin -
I remember panicking at one point because I realized I'd never get my invites done in time . . . I called in sick to work and took one day to them all. I can relate!!!!!!! (but oh what a fun reason to be tired & sore :-)
~ Lynne
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I just spent damn 5 hours sitting in a chair doing invitations, nothing like putting it off??? My back is killing me!! I hope the lexmeister puts me to sleep:) Glad to see everyone had a pretty good day, and oh size 4...I envy you. Put a 1 in front of that 4 and that is what I wear, a 12 if I am lucky!!
Posted by LynneDa on April 13, 2004, at 9:34:32
In reply to RE::: Lexy » LynneDa, posted by simus on April 12, 2004, at 23:25:13
Thanks Simus - I have had such bad insomnia w/ Lex, I could get through it if I knew it would eventually give me more energy during the day!
~ Lynne
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Wellbutrin cause severe insomnia the first week for me, but like other side effects, it soon eased off.
Posted by simus on April 13, 2004, at 11:42:32
In reply to weight. » KathrynLex, posted by want info on April 13, 2004, at 9:15:14
> hey guys. i dont mean to offend anyone with this at all but i believe that weight gain associated with ssri's often has to do more with the mood of the patient than the drug.
Everyone is entitled to their opinions. All I know is what I lived. On some meds, I ate the same and gained. On some, I ate the same and lost (not SSRIs in this case). Some meds made me very hungry or tired, thus weight gain. Some caused a lot of energy and so little hunger I would forget to eat, but I still gained. ??? My conclusion...everybody is different, every drug is different, and I gave up predicting and judging a long time ago.
> severe anxiety or depression can cause people to lose weight. they then gain it back when they start feeling better.
That's one scenario. Another is that severe anxiety or depression can cause people to gain weight. They then lose it when they start feeling better.
Another scenario is that people who have had no weight concerns whatsoever, even with depression or anxiety find themselves gaining or losing weight on antidepressants.
> i was on paxil for what seemed like forever and is supposed to be one of the worst for weight gain and didn't gain any...so far on lex i can't tell yet.
Consider yourself very, very blessed. Because it is a bugger to have to deal with mental illness AND weight gain (and the physical problems associated with it - not to mention the facing all the rude, insensitive, judgemental people who either freely offer their advice or whisper when they think you aren't paying attention.)
Posted by Magdalena on April 13, 2004, at 11:48:07
In reply to Redirected Lexaproers, posted by jlynne on March 13, 2004, at 1:31:16
you guys make me want to get married now, lol...nah just kiddinig i dont think i am anywhere near that stage of my life yet..im thinking maybe in 6 or 7 years from now? thats if i find my soul mate, but how are you sure? i guess something would let me know. Still though i am excited for you guys, its a whole new chapter of your life, my congratulations to you.
i dont know if anyone else is experincing this but i am sleeping like 10 hours at night, 10 HOURS!! before i started the meds 8 hours was the MAX that i needed.
anyway hope everyone has a good day, Mrs C is comming back today? I MISSED HER TOO!!! WELCOME HOME MRS C...(if your back yet).
I'm in a good mood cause its my day off, and i just had some chocolate, with toffee in it...mmm toffee *drool*.
:)talk to you later!
Magdalena
Posted by KathrynLex on April 13, 2004, at 11:51:03
In reply to weight. » KathrynLex, posted by want info on April 13, 2004, at 9:15:14
Hi EM,
How have you been? Can you give me an update on your meds and anything new and exciting that's going on?
I'm doing pretty well. The 150 mgs of Wellbutrin and 20 mgs of Lexapro are working out pretty well. I'm less tired these days, but still more tired than I think I should be. I'm going to have my thyroid tested next weekend. Yuck, I hate having my blood drawn.
It's good to see you on the board again!
K.
Posted by LynneDa on April 13, 2004, at 11:53:38
In reply to married, posted by Magdalena on April 13, 2004, at 11:48:07
Hi Mag -
You're so funny! Planning a wedding and having someone to come home to every night is fun, but a lot of work too. Enjoy your singledom for a while longer!As far as knowing if he's your soul mate - I believe there are a lot of men out there that could be a good match for me. It's like buying a house: you start out with the list of the things you absolutely have to have. Then, as you start dating and see what's out there, your list gets shortened a bit :-). I love my husband to death, but after a first marriage, divorce and re-marriage, I'm pretty realistic (yet still pretty romantic too).
The best advice my Mom ever gave me was to work on making myself the best me I could be vs. making myself into something I think a guy would want.
OK, that's my motherly 2 cents for the day :-).
~ Lynne
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you guys make me want to get married now, lol...nah just kiddinig i dont think i am anywhere near that stage of my life yet..im thinking maybe in 6 or 7 years from now? thats if i find my soul mate, but how are you sure? i guess something would let me know. Still though i am excited for you guys, its a whole new chapter of your life, my congratulations to you.
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> i dont know if anyone else is experincing this but i am sleeping like 10 hours at night, 10 HOURS!! before i started the meds 8 hours was the MAX that i needed.
>
> anyway hope everyone has a good day, Mrs C is comming back today? I MISSED HER TOO!!! WELCOME HOME MRS C...(if your back yet).
>
> I'm in a good mood cause its my day off, and i just had some chocolate, with toffee in it...mmm toffee *drool*.
>
> :)talk to you later!
>
> Magdalena
>
>
Posted by want info on April 13, 2004, at 12:56:13
In reply to Re: weight. » want info, posted by KathrynLex on April 13, 2004, at 11:51:03
hi K! im glad to hear the wellbutrin and lex combo works for you. ive been on 20mg for two weeks now. today has been pretty bad...im exhausted which always makes my anxiety worse, and the weather is awful...but i don't feel that hopeless "it's never going to get better" feeling i did before. i hope that 20mg will work for me...but i still dont think i feel as "normal" as i did on the paxil.
how long have you been on 20mgs?
EM
Posted by want info on April 13, 2004, at 12:58:35
In reply to Re: weight. » want info, posted by simus on April 13, 2004, at 11:42:32
oh you are definitely right...and dont think im a little skinny minnie im about a size 10. and i did gain weight on the meds OVERALL but i was on them for 8 years and i think we were all skinnier (or most of us) at age 18 than 26 :) as in i don't know that the gain was due to meds rather than just getting older. so far on lex (2 months) i havent noticed much of a diff either way...now i am worried that ill start to gain! that you had higher energy on some meds and still gained is so scary...
Posted by KathrynLex on April 13, 2004, at 13:11:32
In reply to Re: weight. » KathrynLex, posted by want info on April 13, 2004, at 12:56:13
Hi EM,
I'm sorry to hear you aren't having the best of days...but it's wonderful that you aren't feeling hopeless. You're making progress!! That's fantastic.
As for the Lex at 20 mgs...I increased a week after you did. So I've been at this dose for about a week now. It seems to be helping me. I still get anxious about things but it's a lot easier to talk myself down from my anxiety or panic.
Example: This weekend I was nervous about going for a long drive. I really thought I was going to panic on the trip and kept my Xanax by me at all times. But I didn't panic, and never needed the Xanax...in fact, to my surprise, I had a wonderful time. It's such a huge relief to be able to enjoy things again without having to worry about my anxiety.
Like you, I don't feel "normal" yet. But I know I'm getting closer. I think it would be safe to say that you're getting there too.
K.
Posted by KathrynLex on April 13, 2004, at 13:17:03
In reply to married, posted by Magdalena on April 13, 2004, at 11:48:07
Hi Mag,
Believe me, I could sleep 10 hours or more if I was given the chance. Unfortunately my boss wouldn't be very impressed if I strolled in to the office 2 hours late. I have to settle for lots of coffee during the day, and somehow I manage to keep my eyes open.
As for finding the right man and knowing he's "the one," you just know. It's cliche but true. When you find a relationship that you're comfortable and happy in, it will feel like a good fit...and you won't be worried about whether or not he's "the one" because you'll already know you want to spend the rest of your life with him.
In the meantime, play, flirt, have fun!
K.
Posted by KathrynLex on April 13, 2004, at 13:21:21
In reply to Re: married » Magdalena, posted by LynneDa on April 13, 2004, at 11:53:38
>The best advice my Mom ever gave me was to work on making myself the best me I could be vs. making myself into something I think a guy would want.
Hi Lynne,
That's such great advice. I don't know why women have the habit of trying to change themselves for men, but they do. (I hate to admit I'm guilty of doing it! I have since gotten out of the habit.)
It's too exhausting to try and be something for someone else...and if you do change to meet the needs of another person you discover that your own needs aren't being met. It makes for a very unhappy and exhausting relationship.
Your mother was a wise woman.
K.
Posted by want info on April 13, 2004, at 13:22:35
In reply to Re: weight. » want info, posted by KathrynLex on April 13, 2004, at 13:11:32
k i feel the same way! i anticipate anxiety because i'm so used to it at this point and always carry my xanax...but i find that even after 2 weeks i need it less and less. i still do take it every day... usually .25 or .5 mg...i was worried about doing that but both my therapist (who is a social worker but experienced w/ people on meds) and my pdoc say its ok until i get used to the lex because paxil can be so hard to get off of. things that would have made me panic a month or two ago no longer faze me QUITE as much...so i guess we can see that as progress? im so glad you're feeling better. EM
Posted by sexylexy on April 13, 2004, at 13:52:23
In reply to RE::: Welcome Home Mrs C??, posted by mystic on April 13, 2004, at 6:48:33
Mrs. C!
We missed you. So glad you are back!!!
God Bless,
Lexy
Posted by sexylexy on April 13, 2004, at 13:54:34
In reply to RE:: Hey Lexy, posted by mystic on April 13, 2004, at 6:45:30
Mystic!!!
Thanks so much, you made my day. I am soooo ready to go home and cannot believe that these two years are coming down to 9 days. My roomate and I are going to go to a homeless shelter this afternoon to help then prepare and serve food, should be fun and a good experience!! Have a great day.God Bless
Lexy
Posted by LynneDa on April 13, 2004, at 13:58:10
In reply to Re: married » LynneDa, posted by KathrynLex on April 13, 2004, at 13:21:21
She is pretty wise! It took me A LOT of years, relationships and therapy to work that habit out of my system, but I think I've pretty well got it kicked. Having mental instabilities helped cuz I was too emotionally exhausted to twist myself in knots for someone else! It was actually a relief :-)
~ Lynne
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The best advice my Mom ever gave me was to work on making myself the best me I could be vs. making myself into something I think a guy would want.
>
> Hi Lynne,
>
> That's such great advice. I don't know why women have the habit of trying to change themselves for men, but they do. (I hate to admit I'm guilty of doing it! I have since gotten out of the habit.)
>
> It's too exhausting to try and be something for someone else...and if you do change to meet the needs of another person you discover that your own needs aren't being met. It makes for a very unhappy and exhausting relationship.
>
> Your mother was a wise woman.
>
> K.
Posted by LynneDa on April 13, 2004, at 13:59:54
In reply to RE::: Welcome Home Mrs C??, posted by sexylexy on April 13, 2004, at 13:52:23
Mrs. C. -
Are you back yet or is it just a rumor? I hope you had a wonderful time and we'd love to hear all about it. I missed your postings!!
~ Lynne
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Mrs. C!
> We missed you. So glad you are back!!!
> God Bless,
> Lexy
Posted by KathrynLex on April 13, 2004, at 14:01:20
In reply to RE:: Hey Lexy, posted by sexylexy on April 13, 2004, at 13:54:34
Hi Lexy,
You sound like you're in a wonderful mood. I'm so happy to see that you are doing better! Wow, only 9 days to go...that's excellent.
Have a great time at the shelter, and let us know how it goes.
K.
Posted by sexylexy on April 13, 2004, at 14:09:57
In reply to Re: married » Magdalena, posted by KathrynLex on April 13, 2004, at 13:17:03
Hey Guys,
I just wanted to put my two cents in about the marriage thing. Ya'll know I am 24 and have a boyfriend who is back home. In total, we have spent 11 of our 15 months together long distance. We are seriously considering getting married and will probably do so in a year. I can say that our relationship has not been a fairy tale. It is so hard to conduct a relationship when you are 9.5 hours a way and survive off of phone and email. Then, my slightly cocky, very confident self became depressed. He stood by me and was as loving as he could possibly be. There were so many times that I wanted to break up with him so he would not have to go though this with me but he would reply that he wanted to be there and see me though. We went though some really hard times, I know time he was fed up and times I were to. We both shed a lot of tears and there are things about him that make me crazy. However, all in all I love him, he is a kind good person. We have a lot of fun together and can act really goofy. We are always there for each other in good times and in bad. We share a love of God and try to do right by him. We do the best we can in life and feel like we are stronger together then we could be apart. Of course there is a lot of sweetness and romance but the jist of it is we are strong for each other and we love each other. Will we be together for ever and ever, Im not a fortune teller but I hope so.
God Bless,
Lexy
Posted by Magdalena on April 13, 2004, at 14:37:44
In reply to Re: married, posted by sexylexy on April 13, 2004, at 14:09:57
There were so many times that I wanted to break up with him so he would not have to go though this with me but he would reply that he wanted to be there and see me though-
Hey Lexy, that is so me, i have only been with my boyfriend for almost 8 months but so many times i felt this way because i don't want him to have to deal with all this, my anxiety/depression the fact that i have to take meds/therapy....i just feel like he deserves someone who is normal and can go out anywhere and be up for anything without these invountary fears and sadness. He tells me support is what hes here for, he wants to be with me and says he has never been happier before, and reasures me that he wants to stick by me and help me get better...he's so sweet but sometimes it sits in the back of my mind, that one day he's just gonna get fed up and leave...just insecurities i know but i've always been a little apprehensive about relationships, it could be because i come from a broken home or it could be because my ex boyfriend of 5 years was unfaithful to me and broke my heart and possibly my faith. I try to see it this way, that the faith part is up to me, that its in my hands, i choose to have faith and be positive despite the negatives that i have had to deal with, i tell myself that everybody goes to some degrees of hurt and thats what makes us human. I just need to learn to accept and not overanalyze situations that most likely will never occur and so it’s pointless to get all upset over them. Easier said than done but i think i am slowly getting better with this...
Im happy to hear that you are almost done school! Home in 9 days eh? such a wonderful feeling it must be, you deserve it!
Have a great day, sorry for the babble, just could relate to what you said.
;)Mag
Posted by Magdalena on April 13, 2004, at 14:50:30
In reply to Re: married » Magdalena, posted by LynneDa on April 13, 2004, at 11:53:38
hey Lynne,
thanks for the post, that was some great advice about trying to better myself and not to try to be what someone else wants. You are right because i think that If i am myself at all times then i could only be Loved for being myself and not some reformed synthetic version...does that make sense? I love my boyfriend but i am guilty of being very objective in relationships and its when i let go of that and just let my feelings take over is when i am happiest, its just my fear of getting hurt that keeps me behind a wall..the wall is getting smaller and i think i am taking the right steps towards recovery.I think my biigest fear about relationships is losing my identity and becoming overly dependant on someone...man i think i need more therapy! LOL..thats ok i only started therapy a week ago, im sure eventually all this will come up.
here i go again...blah blah blah..ignore me i am on a sugar high...;)
Lynne you are truly wonderful.
Mag
Posted by LynneDa on April 13, 2004, at 15:06:54
In reply to Re: married » LynneDa, posted by Magdalena on April 13, 2004, at 14:50:30
> Thank you Mag, you're so sweet! You'll find your way. You're very insightful, introspective and kind. Heck, I'm 40 & just figured out what I was doing wrong a few years ago!
For so many years I focused on my ex-husband's issues, mine conveniently got pushed aside! Having a child really made me realize how important my stability is & I really started working. I'm not where I want to be yet, but I'm getting closer.
I totally understand your comments about when you are yourself you're at your happiest - that's a good thing to remember & work to incorporate into your personality. The over-dependence thing is something to keep watch over and even discuss with your boyfriend so he understands your reticence in certain areas. My husband was very understanding and went carefully & slowly in helping to dismantle my walls.
You sound like you are doing so well and have come a long way in a short time. You should be very proud of yourself!!
~ Lynne
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>hey Lynne,
> thanks for the post, that was some great advice about trying to better myself and not to try to be what someone else wants. You are right because i think that If i am myself at all times then i could only be Loved for being myself and not some reformed synthetic version...does that make sense? I love my boyfriend but i am guilty of being very objective in relationships and its when i let go of that and just let my feelings take over is when i am happiest, its just my fear of getting hurt that keeps me behind a wall..the wall is getting smaller and i think i am taking the right steps towards recovery.
>
> I think my biigest fear about relationships is losing my identity and becoming overly dependant on someone...man i think i need more therapy! LOL..thats ok i only started therapy a week ago, im sure eventually all this will come up.
>
> here i go again...blah blah blah..ignore me i am on a sugar high...;)
>
> Lynne you are truly wonderful.
>
> Mag
Posted by sexylexy on April 13, 2004, at 15:14:42
In reply to Re: married » sexylexy, posted by Magdalena on April 13, 2004, at 14:37:44
Mag...
I feel you, I dated a guy for years that I was head over heels for, like the kinda love that I would have done anything for, He was unfaithful and I took him back time after time. Its like I could not help it. I know my boyfriend would never hurt me like that but I put up a wall anyway. I totally understand what you mean!!! Its so nice to have someone who relates!!!
Lexy
Posted by Gator on April 13, 2004, at 15:49:02
In reply to Re: married » LynneDa, posted by Magdalena on April 13, 2004, at 14:50:30
Mag,
I understand the "losing yourself" in a relationship. I have been married to my husband for almost 14 years, we've been together for 16 years. Over the years I really became dependent on him for alot of things and ended up losing who I actually was and he of course got used to all the power he was getting from me. I wanted me back again and talked to my Dr. and he put me on Lexapro. Slowly I became more confident and independent and my husband didn't like that he didn't have the same power over me. In December it all came to a head, he was drunk and thought he could tell me what to do and ended up arrested. The judge said the we could have no contact with each other for a month. I had to take care of the house and my 3 kids all by myself over the holidays. Talk about being depressed. But I made it through, my kids a pretty good Christmas and I found out that I can do anything that I set out to do. We have been back together since January 5th and it was a lesson for him too. He now realizes that I'm not the dumb needy blond that he thought I was and that our relationship was worth saving. We are doing great now and both of us are individual persons that are happily married.
Look at me...I hardly ever post and here I am babbling ...Sorry.
I upped to 15 mgs 2 weeks ago and feel really good. My Dr. said that I can go to 20mgs when I ready....I may stay at 15 for awhile.
Thanks for listening.Gator
Posted by LynneDa on April 13, 2004, at 15:52:02
In reply to Re: married, posted by Gator on April 13, 2004, at 15:49:02
Hey Gator - I forgot that was your situation when you first started posting . . . and that it had a happy ending! That is so wonderful!! Out of the worst of circumstances can come the best of outcomes. I'm so happy to hear the 2 of you (& you on your own) are doing so well :-)
~ Lynne
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Mag,
>
> I understand the "losing yourself" in a relationship. I have been married to my husband for almost 14 years, we've been together for 16 years. Over the years I really became dependent on him for alot of things and ended up losing who I actually was and he of course got used to all the power he was getting from me. I wanted me back again and talked to my Dr. and he put me on Lexapro. Slowly I became more confident and independent and my husband didn't like that he didn't have the same power over me. In December it all came to a head, he was drunk and thought he could tell me what to do and ended up arrested. The judge said the we could have no contact with each other for a month. I had to take care of the house and my 3 kids all by myself over the holidays. Talk about being depressed. But I made it through, my kids a pretty good Christmas and I found out that I can do anything that I set out to do. We have been back together since January 5th and it was a lesson for him too. He now realizes that I'm not the dumb needy blond that he thought I was and that our relationship was worth saving. We are doing great now and both of us are individual persons that are happily married.
>
> Look at me...I hardly ever post and here I am babbling ...Sorry.
>
> I upped to 15 mgs 2 weeks ago and feel really good. My Dr. said that I can go to 20mgs when I ready....I may stay at 15 for awhile.
>
>
> Thanks for listening.
>
> Gator
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