Posted by kazoo on August 8, 2001, at 17:13:28
In reply to Re: the big 'O' versus the big non-'O' » kazoo, posted by Ted on August 8, 2001, at 11:07:05
Ahhhh, how simple everything would be *if* everything could be reduced in terms of "mechanics."
The fact is that moods, feelings, emotions are not tangible or mechanical items.
You can't put them in a box, or under a microscope to study them.
"To be depressed" and "To be in love" are basically on the same scale of recognition in that *both* are abstractions with no clear understanding as to what causes either.Premise 1: Diabetes is an organic illness
Premise 2: Depression is an organic illness
Conclusion: Diabetes is DepressionI don't think so.
> *** First proof ***
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> Argument:
> Depression is an organic illness.
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> Fact:
> Diabetes is an organic illness.
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> Fact:
> Diabetes (type A) is caused by the lack of insulin production.
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> Fact:
> Lack of insulin production is identical to lack of regulation unless the desired regulation level is zero.
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> Fact:
> A living person requires the insulin regulation level to be greater than zero.
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> Fact:
> Depression is caused by lack of regulation of serotonin and other neurotransmitters.
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> Conclusion:
> By analogy, by lack of regulation of essential biochemicals, the process of diabetes is identical to the process of depression.
> QED.
>
> *** Second proof ***
>
> Argument:
> Depression is an organic illness.
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> Fact:
> Diabetes is an organic illness.
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> Fact:
> Diabetes (type B) is caused by the lack of the body's response to the insulin produced.
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> Fact:
> Depression is caused by lack of receptor sensitivity to serotonin and other neurotransmitters.
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> Conclusion:
> By analogy, by lack of sensitivity & reaction to essential biochemicals, the process of diabetes is identical to the process of depression.
> QED.
>
> *** end proofs ***
>
> btw, if you are not familiar with formal proofs, "QED" means "quod exempli demonstratum" or "which was demonstrated". It is used to end proofs.
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> > > PS: btw, kazoo, depression, bipolar disorder, schizophrenia, OCD, ADHD, etc., _ARE_ *organic* diseases just like AIDS, cancer, diabetes, hypertension, etc.
> >
> > ^^^^^^^^^^^
> >
> > Organic v. Inorganic
> >
> > Brain v. Mind
> >
> > Disease v. Disorder
> >
> > How can depression, an affective emotional disorder, be classified as "organic"? Is the brain diseased? Or is the mind disordered?
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