Posted by Ted on August 8, 2001, at 11:07:05
In reply to Re: the big 'O' versus the big non-'O' » Ted, posted by kazoo on August 7, 2001, at 23:12:24
Hi Kazoo,
NO FLAMES INTENDED!
The only way I can make my point effectively is to use a formal proof (remember highschool geometry class?). I know it sounds rather hard-assed, but I think it gets my point across effectively.
You do not have to agree -- this topic is complex and has very personal implications to those of use who read this board.
Please bear with me.
Ted
Here goes:
> How can depression, an affective emotional
> disorder, be classified as "organic"?*** First proof ***
Argument:
Depression is an organic illness.Fact:
Diabetes is an organic illness.Fact:
Diabetes (type A) is caused by the lack of insulin production.Fact:
Lack of insulin production is identical to lack of regulation unless the desired regulation level is zero.Fact:
A living person requires the insulin regulation level to be greater than zero.Fact:
Depression is caused by lack of regulation of serotonin and other neurotransmitters.Conclusion:
By analogy, by lack of regulation of essential biochemicals, the process of diabetes is identical to the process of depression.
QED.*** Second proof ***
Argument:
Depression is an organic illness.Fact:
Diabetes is an organic illness.Fact:
Diabetes (type B) is caused by the lack of the body's response to the insulin produced.Fact:
Depression is caused by lack of receptor sensitivity to serotonin and other neurotransmitters.Conclusion:
By analogy, by lack of sensitivity & reaction to essential biochemicals, the process of diabetes is identical to the process of depression.
QED.*** end proofs ***
btw, if you are not familiar with formal proofs, "QED" means "quod exempli demonstratum" or "which was demonstrated". It is used to end proofs.
> > PS: btw, kazoo, depression, bipolar disorder, schizophrenia, OCD, ADHD, etc., _ARE_ *organic* diseases just like AIDS, cancer, diabetes, hypertension, etc.
>
> ^^^^^^^^^^^
>
> Organic v. Inorganic
>
> Brain v. Mind
>
> Disease v. Disorder
>
> How can depression, an affective emotional disorder, be classified as "organic"? Is the brain diseased? Or is the mind disordered?
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