Psycho-Babble Faith | about religious faith | Framed
This thread | Show all | Post follow-up | Start new thread | List of forums | Search | FAQ

Lou's reply to Dena-wlknthesprit

Posted by Lou Pilder on March 19, 2008, at 19:38:46

In reply to Lou's reply to Dena-nwhrtnmnd » Dena, posted by Lou Pilder on March 19, 2008, at 18:54:54

> > This is something we're discussing both in our home, and in our fellowship group, Lou... and I find it both fascinating and perplexing.... there are SO many ways in which these passages have been interpreted over the years, and it brings great confusion.
> >
> > I'd like to hear more about the 7 stages, as well as what happens to those in the lake of fire, and those who are not hurt by the lake of fire.
> >
> > Shalom, Dena
> >
> > "The unanswered questions aren't nearly as dangerous as the unquestioned answers."
> >
> > "We turn to God for help when our foundations are shaking only to learn that it is God shaking them." - Charles West
>
> Dena,
> You wrote,[...ways in which these passages have been interpreted...].
> It has been revealed to me that the book called The Revelation was written by John, a Jew, and that the symbols then used were so that at least Jews could understand the message of the book. Being a Jew, what has been revealed to me is from a Jewish perspective.
> In what we are discussing, when I read the second chapter concerning overcomming, I was led to the book called Jeremiah, the 31st chapter, the 33erd verse where I read that he that overcomes will eat of the tree of life which is in the midst of the Paradise of God. And it reads,
> [...says the Lord, I will put my law in their minds and write it in their hearts, and I will be their God, and they shall be My people...]
> The tree of life was in the midst of the garden and could have given Adam and Eve the mind of God, and have had God's law written in their hearts, but they did not eat of that tree. It has been revealed to me that the tree of life is God's law put into the minds and hearts of His people by His Spirit, which means that repenting is the first stage of overcomming and one is allowed to eat of the tree of life which then imparts God's Spirit into the miinds and hearts of the overcommer. This then is a new mind, a spiritual mind, and a new heart, a spiritual heart.
> Lou

Dena,
Then at this stage in overcomming we are confronted with two minds, and they are opposed to one another. For it has been revealed to me that one cannot serve two masters.
It has been revealed to me that the carnal or natural or flesh mind wars with the spiritual mind and from here the overcomming gets into a different stage and that to be carnally minded is death in the fleash and that to be spiritualy minded is life and peace in the Spirit and if we walk in the Spirit, we will not fulfill the desires of the flesh which are murders, sorcery, idolatry, and such and that the fruit of the Spirit is love, peace joy , longsuffering, gentleness and faith.
Lou

 

Thread

 

Post a new follow-up

Your message only Include above post


Notify the administrators

They will then review this post with the posting guidelines in mind.

To contact them about something other than this post, please use this form instead.

 

Start a new thread

 
Google
dr-bob.org www
Search options and examples
[amazon] for
in

This thread | Show all | Post follow-up | Start new thread | FAQ
Psycho-Babble Faith | Framed

poster:Lou Pilder thread:814179
URL: http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faith/20070227/msgs/818895.html