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Re: HELP! Enteric endocrine problems from psych m

Posted by Krumcake on May 18, 2005, at 1:11:43

In reply to Re: HELP! Enteric endocrine problems from psych m » Krumcake, posted by Larry Hoover on May 17, 2005, at 7:29:45

Thanks so much for all the info. I think that I am just getting so frustrated with our docs, that everything is overwhelming me and the prospect of trying to put together a hemp shake on our own seemed daunting. Since you went through the ingredients (which I did also, but somehow it wasn't registering...duh:), I see now that it won't be so hard to put that product together. I went to the Natural Market today for a 20% off sale (woo-hoo) and filled up with Probiotics, a greens-n-protein shake mix and some flax oil... We're going to make due with those until the shipment from Living Harvest comes in. I'm also giving him Super Milk Thistle, and vit c and B-6 to help the amino acids absorb.

We were at the Psychiatrist yesterday, filling him in on all this and he offered this helpful suggestion: "well, here's an idea - let's try upping the Seroquel" - - whatever. Ah, sorry buddy, we're thinking of dropping the Seroquel not upping it! That was just a med that he was put on while going through detox in January....trying to get off the vicodin he's been on all year...while the docs tried (-i guess?) to peice this thing together!!!!! You know, on second thought, I think we should up the Seroquel because by the time this thing is all over - I'M gonna need it to keep me from going postal on these doctors.

(me...doing some deep breathing...)

He's had biopsies, all normal. Here's what I'm thinking...if you have a moment(or ten)please tell me if any of this makes sense.

1. He's been a MAJOR Ant-Acid user for upwards of 12 years now. The man always had heart burn. Well, after (recently) doing the vinegar test, and the heart burn promply STOPPED - we started wondering if maybe he's got under production rather than over.

Well, after all those years of Antacid use, might the acid in the tummy be to low to stimilate Secretin, as a result - Secretin to low to stimulate a bi-carb dump from the Pancreas, as a result, the contents travel down the rest of the tract with a non-neutral ph, resulting in possible acid burns which after time, might get so irritated as to induce motility problems? Not to mention, making the environment inhospitable for the normal realease of other secretions, hormones, etc...

2. Before he had his Gallbladder taken, they did a spinctography (sp) and found malfunction, but after they took the organ, they said it looked perfectly fine. Suspect=Cholecystokinin, lack of.
Side note: It's apparently common for those with schiz. or anxiety to have "abberated" expression of CCK.

3. He has Narcoleptic calibur urges to sleep immediately after eating and NEVER has any energy otherwise. Suspect=Ghrelin.

4. Never before a sweet tooth, now practically breaking into the bakery at night - his sugar cravings are unprecidented. Suspect=Gastric Inhibitory Peptide

That one's a stretch, but my theory is that if the Enteric Nervous System is constantly "tasting" the
lumenal environment and interpreting them as acidic (of course not knowing about the overuse of ant-acids thus inhibiting Secretin) might it employ sugar cravings to stimulate the release of GIP?

There's so much more, I could go on all year, but why? I've brought these ideas up, but the doc's look at me like I'm just some stay at home mom who has too much spare time on her hands. They say, well er, we don't feel that uh- hmmm, well, no, no, that testing wouldn't be...here, try some famotidine! Don't call me in the morning.

Lar, if I may impose - what do you think?


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