Posted by alexandra_k on September 1, 2013, at 21:10:38
In reply to Re: anxiety about babble, posted by Dr. Bob on August 31, 2013, at 22:36:16
The tall poppy thing...
I guess when people are doing it they think they are justified because the person they are doing it to is up themselves. They think they are better than everyone else. They deserve it. They need to be cut down to size.
I guess they probably don't think that they are envious and pulling the wings off angels.
It puzzles me...
When people watch Olympic athletes or other elite level athletes or dancers or view great works of art or literature I don't think most people feel envious. Do they?
But when someone is best in the gym or in a particular art class or whatever (when that display of skill is lower than above) then people get all envious and spiteful. Especially... If you just want to get on with doing your thing (e.g., the reason why you can do a handstand better than everyone else is because you spend 20 minutes a day f*ck*ng working on it while they just come to class and wonder why they suck). If you aren't prepared to spend all your time making them feel better about themselves... They will turn on you.
That is a small group phenomenon. It was interesting what Wiki had to say about a limited amount of prestige with the small group thing... That being the difference. Chickens and their pecking. If you aren't around people all the time... That is when they get to speculate about you and wonder what you are up to... And that is when the attention whores get jealous of you of why so many people seem to care about you...
The crabs thing.
I'm not really talking about babble. I'm talking about 'what is wrong with me'
I got put in the wrong group. That was the fear with the alpha, gamma, beta, babies... That you might get put in the wrong group... Or that you needed to condition them into things in such obvious ways (e.g., playing the audio recording rather than providing different childcare strategies e.g., with number of children to carer ratios and activities like reading vs activities like yelling as loud as you f*ck*ng can for fun). I've been trying to function (unsuccessfully) in the wrong group for the last couple years. The crabs have been preventing my getting out... Perhaps because... Then they will be faced with the fact that they are living in a bucket.
Im f*ck*ng angry becaus eit turns out that I was all humble because i see that i don't know f*ck*ng anything. I have this sense of the world as something huge and i don't f*ck*ng know anything at all about anything much of it... And other people are so f*ck*ng self confident. They know how things work. They know how I am. They know what is wrong with me. They know everything... And then I try... I try and let them help me (because they try and help me - typically those who are most in earnest to help me are people such as these). And I try really hard and understand what htey are saying about what is wrong with me and so on... And I must be very f*ck*d up indeed that I can't quite understand what they are saying or why I can't make things work for me the way that other people think they should.
And it isn't me that is the problem.
Thinking about the student accommodation guy... Everybody tries to persuade me that I really am... Whatever it is that they are / that they provide / what it is they want to provide. Ships passing. They are trying to match students for hobbies etc. If I have to see my flatmates at home the last thing I want is to be seeing them in the gym, the library, and the classroom as well. If I wanted to live in someones pocket I could have gotten married many times over by now. If I wanted to have given up myself in order to further the interests of others (what most people mean by 'be co-operative, alex you selfish bitch') ditto.
again: why co-operate unless there is mutual benefit? aka: what is in it for me? i don't care about your esteem... that makes me a target...
i'm a-social.
all philosophers are. cats. in a world full of dogs...
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