Posted by Solstice on December 19, 2010, at 23:45:21
In reply to Solstice :( I lose hope, posted by muffled on December 19, 2010, at 23:15:15
Muffled - I understand why it feels to you like Bob is telling Christempowered that he's 'bad.' But I don't think Bob was trying to send that kind of message. I think it's really hard for those of us who have spent a big chunk of our lives on the receiving end of a lot of condemnation, judgment, rejection, and our trying to figure out what kind of dance we have to do to make our abusers happy. That creates in us an automatic response to an authority figure suggesting that we need to do something a little better - we end up 'hearing' them telling us that we are bad and worthless - can't do anything right. I know this struggle Muffled, because I have walked that road. It takes a long time to believe that it's even possible for someone to say we need to do something better, and for them to not mean that we are bad. First you have to begin to believe it yourself - that it is perfectly okay to make mistakes - even a lot of mistakes - and it does not mean that you are 'bad.'
Just give it some thought. Try to read through the dialogue between CE and Bob.and try to 'hear' Bob saying "CE, you're a great guy, but this thing you said about anti-psychiatry and hogwash might make someone who is very anti-psychiatry feel like he's not welcome. I'm worried about them feeling bad. Can you rephrase your opinion in a way that wouldn't make an anti-psychiatry person feel bad about themselves?" Maybe if you can say that in your head as you read it, you'll be able to see it from a perspective that doesn't feel so threatening to you.
Take good care, Muff
Solstice.
> I know you been working hard to try and make this place better. But this is a classic example. And you can bet your butt that Bob will NOT change his mind, never has before.
> Thats why I can't be here. Cuz I fully DO NOT understand Bob, and the fact that a person can share some of who they are, expose some of themselves, and then get it thrown in thier faces that they are somehow bad, that they are bad.....OMG, this is SO theraputically WRONG on SO many levels. And I know this isn't therapy, but I thot it was sposed to be a 'safe' place to share...Well I GUESS NOT.
> I mean its wrong on ANY level..
> I so wish there was something to be done....
> But honestly....
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