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Re: Regarding Twinleaf's block » wittgensteinz

Posted by Deputy Dinah on January 24, 2009, at 9:36:07

In reply to Regarding Twinleaf's block, posted by wittgensteinz on January 24, 2009, at 5:45:56

> ...I can also see how GG's suggestion that Twinleaf has 'cognitive distortions' could also be upsetting/offensive to Twinleaf, but there was no recognotion of this at the time from the deputies, and I can see how Twinleaf might have felt victimised as a result and had a need for this to be recognised.

http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20081003/msgs/870270.html

Please don't post anything that could lead others to feel accused or put down, even if they have already received a PBC.


> There are situations where using the notification button just doesn't seem appropriate or enough.

> I can think of a personal example where a poster posted two upsetting posts in quick succession. He was blocked for the first post. The second post, directed at me left me feeling very upset but because he had already been blocked for his first post there was no recognition for his behaviour in the second.

I recognize that there are times when the rules at Babble do not seem adequate for expressing our pain and frustration. In fact, since as a deputy the rules that apply to me are even more stringent, and enforcement of the existing rules toward me is somewhat (but not infinitely) more relaxed by Dr. Bob's expressed wish, I am very much aware of this. However, the rules were created by Dr. Bob for the good of the board. And if there was no enforcement of the rules, there is no real purpose in having them. Everyone on Babble is likely frustrated by the civility guidelines at times, but they are also protected by the civility guidelines. Frustrated or not, Dr. Bob asks that we abide by the civility rules. Posters always have the option of deciding whether breaking the rules is worth the consequences, for reasons of conscience or satisfaction or various and sundry other reasons, although since I think there are valid reasons for the civility rules in fostering a supportive community, for the most part I hope that posters find a way to do what their conscience or feelings of dissatisfaction require while keeping the civility guidelines and the spirit of the civility guidelines in mind. (I am not at all suggesting that this is the only reason for posting in violation of board guidelines.)

The standard practice of not PBC'ing posts for a poster who has since been PBC'd and not blocking on posts where a poster has already been blocked has two purposes IMO. Dr. Bob can correct me if I am wrong. The first purpose is frankly related to the blocked poster. It may be harder for people to understand in some cases than others, but Dr. Bob is in favor of making rules that apply to *everyone* on the board. The second reason is practical. Once a poster is PBC'd or blocked for one post, Dr. Bob does not act on posts previous to that, so from an administrative point of view it is moot rather posts made before that time were uncivil so Dr. Bob's limited time is spent on future posts.

However, since that time, deputies suggested and received permission to post reminder posts to persons already blocked or PBC'd on posts made around the same time. Particularly if they are on different boards. Because we recognize that not everyone reads every thread or every board. So if in the future you would like to do that, please let Administration know, and if it falls into those parameters we will do it.

> My worry now is that this experience will put Twinleaf off from ever returning to Babble and that would be a great loss for the community here.

No one respects Twinleaf or her contributions to the Board more than I do. No one regrets this situation more than I do. Particularly since I post frequently on the Psychology Board, and I consider it my second family. We've had many valuable and interesting discussions over the many years of our acquaintance that I cherish, and I would hate to see those end. While I don't wish to speak for anyone else, I believe Twinleaf's contributions to Babble are greatly respected by Dr. Bob and deputies. I very much hope as well that Twinleaf comes back to Babble.


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