Posted by Lou Pilder on April 5, 2008, at 12:12:43
In reply to Lou's reply to Sigismund-gudfrthecomazahol » Sigismund, posted by Lou Pilder on March 29, 2008, at 16:04:23
> > Lou
> >
> > I would like to hear about the French Revolution and the coral reef.
> >
> Sigismund,
> You wrote that you would like to hear about the French Revolution and the coral reef..]
> Before I write here concerning your post, let us go back to the ancient Greek concepts of the city-state. The city-state was like a church-state but that there were many gods and that the people were considered as to if they could be strong and if children were not strong they were killed so thta the state would not according to them, be burdened with unhealthy children. This is called infanticide and was ligitimized by the thinking of those that practiced this ideology that the city-state is {the whole} and each person was part of the whole so that killing those children was in their minds doing what would be good for the city-state as a whole. This can be seen by doing a search for {Plato}. Later, Dawinism and National Socialism implemented this thinking again up to 1945.
> Plato laid the groundwork for the ideology that the community is an {organism}, like in our discussion as a coral reef. I could later tie this in with European fascism from 1922 to 1945.
> The Platoian ideology was replaced by the foundation of Judaism that considered life to be sacred in that those that believed in the god that the Jews worshiped, in that they accepted a comandment that they XXX. This view of humanity was spread through Europe from the first century C.E by those that considerd that a Jewish Rabbi that was called Jesus of Nazareth, came to earth to proclaim the Kingdom of God. That ideology replaced the many gods of the Greeks and that man held the commandments of their God to them, such as the commandment not to murder, higher than the state and then the ideology of the church-state came into being.
> But in the 16th and 17th centuries, there were European philosophers that were writing against those that held to the foundation of Judaism. The Jacobins led into the French Revolution with a period of murder and wanted to establish a "religion of reason" based on some aspects of Platoism. Robespierre, the leader, took the cathedral of Notre Dame and called it a "temple of reason", took down the symbols of the religion there and replaced them with a female statue known as the "goddess of reason".
> This brought in the ancient Plato ideology and led to Fredrich Nietzsche and the ideology of National Socialism that ended in Germany in 1945.
> There is more to this...
> LouSigismund,
Then in the 1800's untill 1945 the ideology was developed thinking that the country was an organism and that the people were to exist for the good of the state as a whole, thinking that the country was a living thing and infanticide was reinstituted along with the systematic murder of others that were deemed to be those that could be not good for the community as a whole. This ideology meant that there could be groups of people that could cause, in their thinking, disease to the whole and scapegoating came into vogue of groups of people or just one person in that group.
The tactics used in European fascism, that used this ideology from 1922 to 1945, was to stigmatize a group of people with false accusations by ,in some cases, using the tactic if {innuendo} to have the others think that they had to be segregated for the good of the country's survival, stigmatizing those in that group as harming the whole by something that was made up to arrouse ill-will toward people of that group as that they are harming the whole.
These countries were usually made up of people that surrendered their will to one man to fulfill his own ambitions.
more...
Lou
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