Posted by special_k on April 16, 2006, at 22:59:19
In reply to Re: Civility IRL, productivity and good relationships., posted by greywolf on April 16, 2006, at 22:36:27
hey :-)
> Isn't the first rule of civility club that you don't argue about civility club?heh heh. would you mind terribly if i made an argument1 and argument2 distinction... ;-)
(seriously though thats pretty funny)
:-)> My lonely, personal opinion--expressed without regard to any particular other poster(s)--is (1) that civility guidelines are inherently difficult to enforce,
i agree.
> and (2) that civility guidelines are particularly necessary for a website that supports people, some of whom are experiencing pain and unhappiness.
i agree.
> Consequently, while one would hope that common sense prevails in all circumstances,yes indeedie
> and that too close scrutiny would not be applied simply for the sake of finding violations of the civility rules,
yes of course
> the nature of these boards suggests a need to err on the side of caution--both in the administration of the rules and in expression of disagreement with the rules or rules enforcement.
ooh.
err on the side of caution in the sense of blocking people incase they were intending to be incivilDICT or do you mean err on the side of caution in the sense of being charitable to the poster and not blocking them unless they unquestionably stepped over the line? because bob seems to be thinking former and i'm trying to advocate the latter.why? i guess bob is focusing on the harm to the community of uncivilityDICT on the boards. but who is gonna be harmed if declan didn't get blocked for two weeks?
i have refocused... on the harm to the poster who is blocked. a two week banishment. and what for? because there is a tendency for people from the us to take politics personally. not that anybody did in this instance i don't think. you know declan wasn't even talking about us politics! that is the ironic thing. he was worrying about australia. but the default assumption... priming is going on...
re expressing disagreement...
i express disagreement and people ignore me.
so yeah...
i guess i'm glad people are following along.
not so glad people have been feeling hurt...
but are people feeling hurt...
or are people feeling pissed?
have i overstepped the line?
depends... i honestly don't know. i honestly don't know. bob says he doesn't make admin decisions on the basis of how people feel. but that is b*llshit.
so what i'm wondering is what kinds of feelings...
and whose feelings...lets just see.
because we all know bob can be charitable at times.
so what will he choose to do...
he will probably be trying to figure what might be best for the boards...
hard to say.
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