Posted by gardenergirl on May 23, 2005, at 18:15:04
In reply to Re: or...., posted by so on May 23, 2005, at 14:44:06
> > Um, why would the rules for this board apply anywhere else? They are by definition Dr. Bob's unique rules.
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> And hence, terms of service for this site. "terms of service" is the standard reference to behavioral expectations published in support of networked forums. Civility is seldom, if ever, used to describe expectations of terms of service at other forums.But it is part of the guidelines for posting here. And if one is posting here, one must follow the guidelines here, just as when posting at a different site, one must follow the rules specified by that site. I'm not sure what the issue is. Dr. Bob's site, Dr. Bob's rules. Oma tupa, oma lupa; not mi casa, su casa.
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> > Hmmm, I haven't read every word on this site, but I have never encountered any claim of ownership of the concept of "civility". Would you please provide a link or a quote?
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> "Please be civil". What more evidence do we need than the statement itself? Either civility is what Robert Hsiung says it is, or it is a broader concept owned by society at large, which in this case does not always or even often align with expecations of his implicit terms of service.I disagree. I can hold both concepts at the same time...being civil according to Babble and being civil according to society are different uses of the word and have different requirements. Thus, Dr. Bob does not "own" the concept of civility. In addition, I'm quite certain I have heard of the term long before I ever came to Babble. I cannot claim to have known this longer than Dr. Bob has been alive, because I do not know his age, and it is unlikely I would have known the concept in my youngest years.
>> >The former is a request for a type of behavior and the latter is a characterization.
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> And the request for a type of behavior, striclty, compliance with terms of service, characterizes non-compliance as less than civil, hence uncivilized. Does not the statement "Please wash your hands" imply that hands are unwashed and unclean?Nope. It is simply (or merely) a request for a behavior to occur. Said behavior may be occuring on a regular basis prior to the request; it may have never occured; it may be occuring at the exact same time of the request; and any other iteration of repetitions or ommissions. The request for a behavior is a separate entity from the behavior itself, and even more, it is completely separate from an assessment of a person's character (i.e. "unclean). Any connotation one perceives beyond the simple request for an action lies within the perceiver.
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> > And this is really about making sure Dr. Bob gets enough sleep? awwwww
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> Perhaps the administration could write a determination as to whether use of the exclamation "awwww" is consistent with guidelines that would otherwise be considered terms of service. It has also been used elsewhere in this forum with similar inference, i believe in the title to a post.Perhaps he could. Are you requesting that he do so? I don't recall another post with that in the subject line. It may or may not be similar in usage to mine, regardless of inference.
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> But yes, sleep and the effect of rest on capacity to deliver service is part of what I am discussing.In your response to chemist, you used the term "critical service" related to service delivery of possibly impaired providers. How do you define "critical service"?
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