Posted by Shy_Girl on April 13, 2005, at 12:17:21
In reply to Re: Dr. Bob, you overstepped the boundaries » Shy_Girl, posted by 10derHeart on April 13, 2005, at 9:19:02
> I, too, was surprised Dr. B posted that, as it is a little bit beyond what he usually does. But, I disagree with you that it's a problem. I gave it some thought, and I figured maybe he was just "pushing" the process along a little.
>... Not sure why that time he did that, only Dr. Bob could say, but he is a human being, prone to impulse from time to time, like all of us. Seems like it was a passing on of information, not the offering of a clinical opinion at all, to me.
I still don't think it was wise of him to provide ideas for discussion...it can give that particular idea more weight than others, because of his background.
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> I get the basis of your concern, but I think maybe it's an unreasonable standard to apply. If he must guard against both real AND imagined relationships...well, how could he, really? Real is one thing, and I think he's scrupulously careful, 99% of the time, not to interact in any ways that could lead to that.
... Maybe especially on a mental health forum, I think the bits of common ground, i.e., humanity, humor, using emoticons etc., Dr. B allows himself, makes for smoother interactions. Maybe helps people from feeling so much like, "gee, is this guy for real...or just a machine/robot?"
>I think it would be better if he were just a robot. Then he won't have any feelings. I'm sorry, I'm not sure what to think anymore. I think I'm still a little messed up from overdosing on cough syrup. (I had some cool closed eye hallucinations in bed though!...or was it just lucid dreaming?) I just hate that he's a real person. Just seeing his picture angers me. I hate thinking that he thinks and feels. He needs to be more like a robot.
> > To make the administration role more administration and even less interactive, perhaps the role of moderator should be given to more than one person...who can then post using the name "Dr. Bob".
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> I think he has already decided not to do this. It's specifically mentioned in the FAQs where it talks about deputies. I'm glad. To me, that would be strange and disingenuous. I would really hate not knowing *who* was really speaking. But you should feel free to try to change his mind on that by posting about it - just as you are!I suppose people can take a vote on that issue. For me, at his time at least, I'll be more comfortable knowing that Dr. Bob is not a real person. If his role is truly solely administration, I don't think it matters who posts as a moderator. The posts would be the same no matter which moderator posted.
> Are you saying part of Dr. Bob's role must be, in your opinion, to be willing to "witness" someone commit suicide? I don't understand that. Can you explain your reasoning any more?Yes, I think Dr. Bob should be totally without feeling and be ready to witness suicide. He shouldn't get involved because we are not his patients. (Even if we were I don't think he should because suicide is a personal choice). That is just my opinion though. Dr. Bob shouldn't have to worry about us in his real life, at all. Since he IS human, it must be hard to totally not think about us when he is not working as moderator. He needs to learn to be like a robot.
>But I'm not sure there was much disagreement that if someone's statements, in Dr. Bob's opinion, are beyond ideation, he may decide to use his info on their ISP to try to get IRL help to them. Why do you object to this, I'm wondering? I'm not sure how he would deal with suicidal posters - ethically, morally, humanly - without having some policy that aimed to TRY to get them IRL help in the most extreme cases. It's a fine line, and something most pdocs have to find a way to walk anyway.
Again, Dr. Bob shouldn't have to deal with this, it is not his job. He shouldn't have to worry about this. People have a right to kill themselves and shouldn't have people interfere. I don't think he should provide any help whatsoever...people die, that is life. (By the way, I'm NOT suicidal, but if I become suicidal...DO NOT INTERFERE!)
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> Could you say what you think an alternative policy for this site on suicidal posters would look like? That would help me understand better.
>Again, just let people die. Don't get involved, one will only get hurt.
Shy_Girl
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