Posted by lil' jimi on November 20, 2003, at 16:21:47
In reply to Re: Specific questions » lil' jimi, posted by Dinah on November 7, 2003, at 15:05:28
hi Dinah,
>> Hi Jim.
>> I'm sorry you're feeling so disturbed by this.
... did you know that sometimes you sound _Just_ like ol’ dr. b? ....
>> :(
... except that then you give us a little emoticon there ... thanks!
>> I wish I could say something to make you feel better.
.... i know you do, sweetheart ...
>> But the truth is that that possibility is something that we all have to deal with on the internet. That people might not be who they say, or they may be deceiving us, or playing with us. That's just an unpleasant fact.
... alas
... and don’t i just Know it!
... hey like, yikes? ... you know?
... ... i was like _Friends_ with Krissy P
... ... .. and THEN i was _friends_ with galk (what did i know?)
... ... ... name two other posters more ... how did you put it
... “Disturbed” ... yeah, that’s right ... ... ... i was disturbed
.... know anyone else as “disturbed” as i am/was/got?
... what do i win? ... ...>> I've been grappling with this ever since I got to this board, and it's something my therapist keeps in mind even more than I do. He's always warning me to remember that people might not be who they say, as well as the reminders about the limitations of this form of interaction.
... ... see now, i believe deeply in the underlying fraudulence of the universe ....
... all things are transitory
... all things are illusory
... all things are lacking in a substantial permanent self-nature... its the nature of the existence ...
... so i’m Not demanding any perfect authenticity, here or anywhere ... ... ...
.... ... ... but that _Does Not_ mean that fraud is impossible ... ... nor the suffering it causes ...
>> I've seen some improvements on this site since I came here. Dr. Bob began discouraging people first from posting as two people at once, and now he's also discouraging name changes without notification. I think he realizes that his actions were unwise, and won't make the same mistake twice. He's apologized. And I suspect that that is all he *can* do, even if he wants to do more.
... ... i kind of remember some of this
... ... ... but i can’t seem to find it now
... tell me, you say dr. b apologized, right?
.... Was it an “I-Statement” ?.... .... .... ( ha!)
>> I wish this place were completely safe. I'm guessing Dr. Bob wishes this place were completely safe. But it's not. Other posters might misrepresent themselves. People from our real lives might read our posts. It's always appropriate to be careful with our thoughts and how far we extend ourselves on this sort of forum.
..... ..... in all the universe, there are no “safe” places
... and this place Is part of our “real” lives too ...
... but sometimes, for some of us
... this place is safer than just being inside our own heads ....
... ... scary, huh?>> I wish I could say it was different.
.... you’re an honest girl ..... we wouldn’t want you to be lying to me (us) now ... ...
... took me long time to post this back to you because i was so angry when i read it the first time ...
... but i can sense your internal conflict(s), other conflicts(?)
.... .... i sense how tough it must be to wear the deputy’s hat and badge there ...i could tell that my anger was not with you ... (of course it was with ME) ...
but your above post made me feel like i was a deluded child being patted on the head and asked to keep quiet ... ... which was hurty and made me grrrrrrr! like ... you know?
>> I miss your voice on the boards.
... ... t h a n k ... ... y o u ! .... ... (((dinah))) !
>> I hope you can find it in yourself to accept the possibility that you will be deceived, knowing that if you are, it's nothing for *you* to be ashamed of.
... well, yeah .... like i said ... for me it is an article of my religious faith that we are all being deceived continuously ... well, except for the enlightened ones .... .... so that’s not really the nature of the problem here for me ...
... but i do feel shamed when it is posed as if i was not skeptical enough and therefore i was complicit in the fraudulence that was perpetrated ... ... i would like to feel i can be reasonably wary While not having to be totally distrustful ... ... but what it sounds like (TO ME) is i’m being told that this place (and all the web) is inherently deceptive, duplicit and deceitful ... but please feel free to come by anytime! ... ...
... i've been played before ... ... i'll be fooled again ... ... i’m a big guy ... i can accept that it may well be deceptive ... no problemo!
... ... what is still sticking in my craw is that management managed to facilitate fraud being perpetrated on me
.... .... there were other people who Knew i was being sold down the river ....
... (ever been made to feel like there were bystanders on the sidelines snickering at you for being suckered ... because they know about it but you don't?)
.... and should have been able to know i would have to had (have) Issues with these prepetrators ... ... (!)... how civil was That?
... (can i Get Any help on These points?).... .... (OH! the "garbage cane lid" analogy WAS beautiful!!! ... thank you! thank you !!)
... ... now we can get troll warnings?
... IF they’re “I-Statements”?
... ... ?
.... .... right?where was my warning?
peace!
~ jim
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