Posted by madwand on November 16, 2003, at 15:26:28
In reply to Re: please be supportive » Destroyo » madwand, posted by Dr. Bob on November 16, 2003, at 11:47:42
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> > it'd throw a serious monkey (money?) wrench into the works if us wage slaves started offing ourselves.
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> > an increased propensity to suicide ... would quite possibly stir radical and mostly positive changes in our corrupt society
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> > if drugs were legal ... and people could take that handful of pills, go to sleep and never wake up, as I said, it might lead to changes that would help ameliorate the causative factors in people's lives that lead to suicide.
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> > Destroyo
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> > one could know that in the face of that final defeat one would, like woman in the story above, be victorious
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> > madwand
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> Please don't suggest that others harm themselves to change society or to feel victorious. Thanks,
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> Bob
>I hope I am doing the "re-direct" right -- have not tried it before (I just changed the board in the pulldown).
I see your point, Dr. Bob, and I concur with what you are trying to do (make sure that no posting to the board lets anyone to that final decision). However, I believe you took part of my post out of context. I was not suggesting that anyone commit suicide to feel victorious (perhaps my example, in which the woman did essentially that, was ill-chosen). What I was suggesting was that if one reframe ones stance toward from one of "defeat" to one of "victory", then from that empowered space one does not have to commit suicide at all!
While the actual advocating of suicide certainly has no place here, I would hope that discussion of "out of the box" outlooks toward it (which are actually empowering and life-affirming) would be permitted.
Anyway, glad to see you back from your recent absence. Peace!Michael
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