Posted by Vincent_QC on September 16, 2010, at 13:10:35
In reply to Re: oh canada! » Maxime, posted by Conundrum on September 16, 2010, at 8:06:55
> How do psych services operate in canada? Do you have to pay out of pocket at all. What makes them so bad? I will use this information so I can go comfort my Fox News loving family and tell them they were right about Health Care reform all along.
I can't talk about peoples who live outside the Quebec province, but I think it's different for every provinces in the Canada.
For the Quebec, we don't pay to see a PDoc...in one way, we pay tax on incomes, if you work of course... and if you don't work and are on the wellfare and disable from work because of a disease you receive not a lot of money each month, it's around 680$ month... and if you live with your parents because you are disable and can't afford to pay for an appartement alone and need some help they cut you 100 $ each month, so you ending with only 580$...
The main problem is that if you work for the a private compagny and not the Governement, you will have private health insurance and most of the time, those private health insurance will only cover a small part of the services like the dentist or the meds...
The main problem is that it's a public health service, public mean LONG WAITING LIST!!! So you don't have to pay to see a Doc or a PDoc or to have a surgery or cancer treatment...but if for example you go to the emergency, it will take forever to see a Doctor, because they lack of nurses and Doctors, if you need to see a PDoc, it's really complicated, long process, and you have to not forget that if you ask your Family Doc to see a PDoc, it's because you have already a psychological disorder to treat... but they don't care... you need a reference paper from your Family Doc... with that paper you have to call at your local CLSC (a kind of small medical clinic) and then they put you on a waiting list to meet a social worker who will fulfill a request to see a PDoc... around 3 to 6 months of waiting before seeing the social worker...
Then they put you again on a waiting list and you wait for the phone call from the psychiatric hospital, who is around another 6-9 months of waiting... And don'T forget that you wait already 3 to 6 months so you add another 6 to 9 months and you get more than 1 year minimum before having the first appointment with the PDoc...
If the PDoc is not good, or if after 1-2 years you don't get better, you can change to another PDoc but you need to redone all the process and you will be wait again for a long time...
The same thing occur for peoples with cancer or cardiac peoples or other peoples who need urgent surgery... they are put on waiting list and some of them die in the meantime... That's horrible I know but it's the reallity...
Welcome to the Canada... or to the Quebec to be more specific...
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