Posted by Sunbath on September 11, 2009, at 14:02:28
In reply to Re: Now trying it too.. how long washout? » Sunbath, posted by Maxime on September 10, 2009, at 17:44:45
> Your English is fine. :)
haha I really can't understand why, but thanks for this flattering comment :)
> I will only be starting Parnate on October 6. My pdoc is on holiday and then I will be away in Calgary for two weeks. I'm going to spend some R&R time in the mountains and working with my friend's horses. I won't be able to ride them because they are not trained for riding.
Oh I see, but this sounds quite interesting! Is your friend training them so that one can ride on them or is she doing something different with the horses?
> My mood has been terrible. I cry at the drop of a hat and I am thinking of suicide all the time. I don't think it's totally from withdrawing from the Cymbalta. I was feeling pretty rough beforehand and that is why I am switching to Parnate since I had a good response to it in the past. I hope it will be the same this time.:( that's very sad to hear! But it's kind of logical of course.. going off cymbalta isn't doing your brain chemistry any good I'm sure and that's making everything even worse! Just try not to think that it's you, it's the depression + cymbalta withdrawal and you can fight it and you will soon with the help of parnate.
BTW: I read you tried to go all alternative once.. did you try rhodiola too?
I wasn't very optimistic about my doc prescribing parnate so that I decided to go all alternative for the 1st time if he wasn't to prescribe it.
So I ordered New Chapter Rhodioloa Force 300mg capsules from vitacost.com. The biggest concern being anxiety and sleep troubles, I also ordered Gaia Herbs' Kava Kava capsules (extra strength, 225mg kavalactones) and Seriphos (phosphorylated serine). I wanted to try them all when I was going to stop any medication.
They all arrived 2 days ago and I just HAD to try them today! The rhodiola really seems to work! and as many ppl mentioned it works immediately!!
I seem to have more energy, less anxiety and my mood is MUCH better, although I quit the SSRI cold turkey and I'm having a cold!!! Before I had a meeting which I was VERY afraid of and was ruminating about it for 2 weeks, but it was NO problem at all and I felt even a bit confident ( I really really never feel confident, especially not in situations like this where I don't know the ppl I talk to (the very opposite is true) ).I really think the rhodiola is having a great impact and I would stick to it if I hadn't the opportunity to try parnate (and hadn't heard about some kind of tolerance possible with rhodiola..)!
I don't know if rhodiola can be combined with parnate and I don't know whether I should stay clean of rhodiola for 14 days either before starting parnate.. Do you know anything about it?
I'll aks in the alternative board too..
If it is ok to take, I'll continue using it until the parnate trial starts and I would HIGHLY recommend it to you too!The Kava btw, which is sad, isn't doing anything at all :(
Additionally I'd like to mention that my grandmother who's husband died 1 year ago and who is/was VERY depressed until now seems to react to rhodiola very positively too!! Before she tried sertraline which helped her with bad "over emotionality" and lifted her mood somewhat but she stayed very lethargic and couldn't work and was tired all days the whole day trough.. Then she quit sertraline, because she thought it was the cause of her tiredness (after 3 month being on) and started a very high dose (1200mg/day) of a popular brand of St. Johns Wort (ws 5570). She was taking it for 2 month without any improvement (still felt EXTREMELY unmotivated.. everything was a big obstacle and took all her strength to get accomplished even the smallest things). She also was sleeping very poorly since a few months..
2 days before she got 2 caps of "rhodiola force 300" + 1 cap 100mg Seriphos from me which she took before nighttime (the seriphos) and 30 minutes before breakfast on the next day (the 2 caps rhodiola). At midday she phoned me being euphoric, nearly hypomanic!!! She told me that she hadn't slept so good since month and that she never felt that "normal" and motivated since 1 year and that it was the first time she enjoyed doing housework again!I really don't think that it was placebo as she tried many different things before (valerian, hops, omega 3 fatty acids, and last but not least the St. John's Wort...) and she never had a positive reaction to one of them...
Just wanted to tell you in the case you haven't tried it and in case it is ok to take before the parnate trial.. maybe it could help you too getting through this very difficult time!
> Good luck to you!Thank you!!! And all the best to you, keeping my fingers crossed for you!
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