Posted by vaxerdec on February 20, 2009, at 7:58:43
In reply to Re: Nardil cognitive side effects- zero memory, posted by g_g_g_unit on February 20, 2009, at 6:45:13
g_g_g_unit said:
> and after [...] lying down, suddenly blacked out
> while performing a strech against the wall. i
> haven;t blacked out so far, so was quite scared about
> what happened ... it was like a sudden rush/tingling
> feeling to the head, then i suddenly blacked out for
> a second or two, and felt ok. never fell the to the
> ground, etc.I find two related common effects with Nardil:
(1) In the morning, and especially on a high dosage or
after staying awake for a while on the stuff (which
requires increasingly more to sustain as time goes on)
there are symptoms of oxygen deprivation that appear
very quickly upon sudden changes in blood distribution,
i.e. going from laying down to standing or the reverse.
I've learned to just walk around in this daze as it
subsides. And take more to make it go away faster :)
This is a common, well-documented side effect of Nardil
but just keep taking it.(2) while either increasing or decreasing a
steady-state dosage, and especially at startup, I tend
to get these weird sudden instances of complete vertigo
that go like "snap" in my head and last for less than
two seconds before another "snap" and it turns off.
This is a very strange symptom, it's like going
instantly from normal to completely disorientation, but
lasts only for like a second. There seems to be a
direct relationship between dosage delta and the
frequency of these weird vertigo snaps. I always
wondered if anyone experienced them...I found that almost all my symptoms from Nardil go away
with time (although this can take several months) and
it's important to steady-state intake or the fluctuation
makes everything go out of whack. Personally, I need
quite a few extra per month too because I take a whole
bunch prior to events where there will be known
situational anxiety, such as having to participate in
groupwork in a classroom setting. Some doctors have
tried to tell me it's psychosomatic, which is complete
nonsense: there is a very obvious, rapid effect from
ingesting more of the stuff. I theorize (but have no
actual knowledge) that this corresponds to the release
of adrenaline and noradrenalin which is known to be
emitted from storage vesicles when there are high
levels of MAO in the blood. I swear there also is a
"rush" of dopamine and serotonin that is released -- it
feels very similar to MDMA actually -- but I can't
think of a mechanism for how this works in the mind, so
that part could be bogus. But if I take enough, I will
become manic and want to talk to everyone at once, and
I feel like we all love each other :) Which is
diametrically opposite from how I usually feel: like I
want to run as far away as possible from the observers,
who all hate me and think I'm stupid.--
Scott
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