Posted by willyee on June 17, 2006, at 1:09:36
In reply to Side effect of MAO's (Nardil, Emsam, etc), posted by MalcolmS on June 16, 2006, at 22:58:59
> Hi: I'm a 41 yo male who's had a lifelong problem with social anxiety disorder. I had posted a series of messages about my experience with Nardil a few months ago. Initially, the Nardil worked great; it was, by far, the only effective med that I've ever tried that so completely wiped away the social anxiety. But as I later learned, this state of "euphoria" was only temporary and if it had continued indefinitely, I would be in a perpetual state of hypomania (it was a bit like having several cocktails all in a row).
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> So slowly the Nardil (I've been on it for about 2-3 months now) euphoria greatly diminished and the anxiety is slowly returning.
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> I have several questions, particularly for the men out there:
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> 1) Does Nardil cause impotence? B/C I can't get a complete erection (even after using Cialis). And as I said, I'm only 41 and that's way too young to be having problems with impotence.
Nardil is horrendously notorious for creating sexual dsyfunction.In fact this alone has played a role in some not choosing to even try it.Weight gain,and sexual dis. are two of its most noted problems.
Some say it subsides after time,but i noticed this to be far and between,the only thing ive heard that helps is a drug called and man i cant remeber the spelling so ill try....CARBERGOLINE,im too tired to look it up lol.But a poster or too did make note this drug helped in that area.
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> 2) Does EMSAM cause the same sexual dysfunction as the Nardil?
I cant say for fact,but emsam and parnate or more closer in match than nardil which is pretty unique even among maois,its a here we go again hydrazine blah,certain type of maoi.If its like parnate,or liquid deprenyl which i personaly used,u should experiance very little sexual problems,mine actualy on parnate are the opposite,im somtimes over stimulated and have a hard time,well eggh finsihing,the solider stands for ever he just doesent punch out.Know wat i mean?
So no i wouldent think parnate/emsam would be problemlatic there.
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> 3) Will I experience the same initial euphoria that came with the Nardil? Or was that a one-time thing.
>Depends on what u are on at the start of parnate,if ur not on many other drugs,i.e lamictal etc,i know me personaly had a tremondous roboust response to parnate in 48 hours,however this was not the lasting effect when that subsided a more normal but undepressed state came about.Ive heard of people like me who had a strong stimulate effect on taking parnate its first week,and i heard of people who been on it weeks waiting for it to kick in.
Emsam from what i read doesent produce that,but of course were all still waiting?
> I've been reading Robert's posts with great interest. I plan on beginning with the EMSAM sometime next week.
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> thanks in advanceI was asked today if i wanted it,id like to be more stable on parnate first,but wish u well,please share ur experiance cause im a candiate for it when i feel it has produced enough postive results,right now im still weighing the jury,but i get semi relieaf,if i werent id jump on it.
Also side note,after a brief trial on nardil,i swithced back to parnate as i could not take the could that seem to hang over me,also nardil was giving me weird enrergy to do the stupidest things like walk around my painted room for hours plastering tiny spots,and this kept me interested.Finaly i gave in,ran to the pharmacy,no washout,took my usual 30 mg of parnate,and that is day is in my mental journal of one of the FEW but BITTER sweet days of TOTAL REMISSION.The only way i can possably descbibe it is as if i had a hard metal cap locked on my brain,and after a long time like this,someone opened it and took it off,my brain lite up,i feel my whole body come alive with energy,not too much,just right,of course this did not last but it was nice.
Ive never used long or any washout periods on maois,they are working towards the same goal,just differently,i give it a day or so to slow down its method of action,and introduce the new one,i honestly do not see a reason to have week/or weekly washouts on maois,to me its just counter productive as u already have a foundation built from the last one,why bear unneeded suffering by washing out,i could be wrong,i am not a docter i just play one online.
Sorry for the long post,working on a project tonight so i have time to kill,as all my posts go its my view only and i force nothing on no one.Good night all!
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