Posted by linkadge on December 15, 2005, at 19:13:43
In reply to Re: Tracy, Breggin, and other quacks... » linkadge, posted by Larry Hoover on December 15, 2005, at 0:34:45
>Do you have any idea of the doses used in that >study? Off the top of my head, I think it was >360 times the maximum human dose, maintained for >12 weeks (equivalent to 15 years of a human life >span). And I think the hypothalamic dendrites >were corkscrewed, not the receptors. I don't >recall for sure.
Fair enought, this study may not be applicable. This is not the only study.
>Who should have known better to simply >generalize to people taking the drug as >prescribed. There are toxic thresholds. Novel >effects that only occur at or above certain >concentrations. These are called toxicoses. >There is no reasonable extrapolation from that >mouse experiment to any human experience >conceivable.Like I said, there are other studies. It is necessary to look at each piece of evidence at a time. Are his coments about the dangers of neuroleptics untrue? Are his comments about the dangers of ECT all inacurate?
Wasn't it you who requested a "Do not ECT" affixed to medical information? What are you reasons for being against ECT? Who else will people listen to. "Good" doctors don't warn against its detremental effects.
>He's a quack because he cherry-picks quotations >from studies, reports secondary and tertiary >references as if they were primary, reports data >out of context, and ignores the published >conclusions of the study authors. He also has >been shown to fabricate the odd bit of data.This is the way I see it. Some psychiatrist think they can lie to you because it is in your best interest of mental health. Breggin is playing the other role. So he may lie from time to time. Perhaps he things the ends justifies the means. (or however the saying goes)
>If you've got the time, you can take Breggin >apart, too.
YOu may be able to pick at parts of their arugments but you can never dismatle the whole. That is why these individuals have lasted this long, because a portion of what they are saying is absolutely true.
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