Posted by MindReseacher on September 8, 2004, at 3:36:58
In reply to Re: Which meds increase dopamine/energy?, posted by researcher437 on September 5, 2004, at 16:32:24
Researcher437, sounded a bit like my posts LOL. Nice post. Im also researching this topic. I just posted one a few minutes ago.
As you stated, for information only. Iv been taking adderall 30mg 2x daily, but i know i need a third dose, due to the fact it wears off in like 5 hrs. But, what can you do.
Nootropics look promising. First, Yes, psychostimulants, such as amphetamines release dopamine, primarily via Nucleus Accummbens. The brains reward center, and also can cause addiction or dependancy. But my ADD has dramatically improved almost 100 percent.
Staterra, seems more like Desipramine, a norepinephrine reuptake. Iv tried desipramine, and has minimal or null effects on motivation or ADD.
Im looking into trying Neuromodulators (aniracetam, Piracetam, oxiracitam ) But alot of these are primarily for memory, alzhimers, demetia.
Supplements as you listed. L-Tyrosine (500mg) taken on empty stomach with Vit b-6 and Vit C in am. Phosphatydylserine increases dopamine levels. L-Theanine also may increase dopamine along with Gabaenergic properties.
Another substance called Mucuna Prurriens (15%L-Dopa) is touted to increase dopamine levels, studies show may increase dopamine better than the actual drug. But i believe L-dopa needs a carrier which at the moment i cant recall. NADH also sounds promising. Good choice!
CDP-Choline , primarily for memory, may effect dopamine. Unsure though. Yohimbine may increae dopamine, but primarily Is a NE Blockade. Some research states it acts like a mild MAO like St.Johns Wart , But both claims i dont really believe, or if you ate cheese with them, i believe you would be in some trouble.Your regiment does seem very interesting and worth a try. Careful with MAOI's which i am reading into more. Kinda like my cheese!
Welbutrin , well, some research states it does not block dopamine to an extent, moresoe norepinephrine. But it is being used for ADD/ADHD for alternatives for amphetamines/Ritalin.
In my opinion,and not to say your regiment is wrong, actually is very promising, is if one is perscribed Adderall, dexedrine, Ritalin, Or Dysoxin, Take them as perscribed without abusing them, by snorting them, or doubling dosages, altough i must add i did take an extra dose because im up 18 hrs a day, an needed that 3rd dose, but after 1-2 months, amphetamine holiday for a few days to week is what i did, and worked well, except next time i am not going to just stop adderall stone cold, and drink coffee. I will replace it with something that will keep me above water.
While taking these meds, i dont see a problem with amino acids precursors, (l-tyrosine, L-theanine- NaHD , Phosyphytidlserine, ect.) I feel these precursors will replenish the loss of dopamine from the amphetamines.
MaoI honestly I dont know enough about to state a claim, but may be worth a shot, but not until all medication is out of your system, and proper diet, but i read that they are or have come out with a selegiline patch, which buy this method, you dont have to follow any specific diet.
I also take 1-2mg of klonopin , 10mg of Lexapro, and Suboxone 8-16mg, (suboxone is for opiate cravings). My doc told me a large percentage of Drug abusers have ADD. But now he persribed me Adderall/Klonopin which is and can be abused. But in my case, he knows my backround, and opiates are my primary drug of choice. I take Klonopin as persribed, as i do adderall, escept for an extra dose if needed, never exceeding 30mg at a time.
write back Researcher437, let me know how your regiment helps you with motivation, social interactions or ADD if you have it.
MindReseacher
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