Posted by Ritch on June 16, 2003, at 12:54:42
In reply to Re: NADH question-niacin » Ritch, posted by Larry Hoover on June 16, 2003, at 9:33:43
> As far as I know, all NADH tablets arise from a patented process developed by an Austrian company. Many different companies market the product, but I believe it is all the same stuff. It is expensive, relative to other B-vitamin supplements.
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> Just for comparison pricing, I pay $17.39 US for 30 x 5mg tablets (oral), and $7.79 for 8 x 10mmg sublinguals (Enadalert).
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> I use a product marketed by Source Naturals. I think Ron uses a different one. I'm almost positive it's identical, though.
That would mean that *all* NADH tablets *should* be enteric-coated unless the labeling indicates them to be used sub-lingually? That's what I am going to assume. If they need to be enteric coated to work-I would hate to get ones that weren't coated and didn't work. The tabs I saw were 5mg (I think #30 qty), and they were $30 a bottle-BUT it was buy one get one free (from what I remember).
> > I'm going to be heading into a depression sometime by the end of this month/beginning of July and was wondering if it would work without taking WB (which is the current plan). I want to avoid the WB because *it* causes irritability and sleep disruption. Who knows--maybe I can sneak a pinch of WB this summer without being irritable with the niacin thrown in... Did you have any sleep disruption on the NADH?
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> I get some sleep disruption from it, but I tend towards insomnia from absolutely anything that makes me feel better. That's just how it is for me. I just have to closely monitor the dose and frequency.
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> I took 10 mg/day for 5 days, until I was saturated with NADH. Since then, I'm averaging 5 mg/week. In those terms, this stuff is cheap (less than 10 cents/day).
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> I was going into a miny crash during Remeron withdrawal (major rebound insomnia), and I took 5 mg NADH two days in a row. Since then, I feel very good. Strong, and exceeding my expectations. Some insomnia, but that was already a big problem after the Remeron, so who's to say what was doing what.
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> As an aside, I've also been taking niacinamide, at 500 mg every few days. It is a natural antihistamine. Here we are at the peak of my allergy season (end of trees, start of grass), and I seldom even remember to take my regular antihistamines, and I only use my steroid inhalers every few days. Last year, and every year before that, as long as I can recall, I would be in very bad shape (emergency room?)if my allergy med intake was that inconsistent. There is a quite extraordinary difference this year, and it doesn't bother me in the least. Heh.
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> Lar
Thanks Larry, I didn't realize that niacinamide had antihistaminic properties. I usually "pre-medicate" with 12.5mg of Benadryl before I mow the lawn and it helps-but I'm drowsy. Maybe I'll try "pre-medicating" with niacin instead. I get sleep disruption from all sorts of meds. I'm REALLY trying to find meds/combos/supps. that doesn't cause this (that's when I wake up 3 hrs in and then I can't get back to sleep-that's my main trouble). I've been going on probably a total of 4 1/2 hrs. sleep every night for a couple of weeks now. Last month it went on all month-and I definitely got manic symptoms. I added 3.75mg of buspirone at bedtime in an experiment to see if it would help my sleep and it made it worse! I switched to taking it first thing in the AM and its gotten better. Melatonin tends to make me depressed. I've heard the magnesium thing-but I'm very sensitive to anything that has a laxative effect-lithium was bad enough!
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