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Re: Ambien and other chimera » Iago Camboa

Posted by Elizabeth on May 6, 2002, at 19:42:05

In reply to Re: Ambien and other chimera » Elizabeth, posted by Iago Camboa on May 3, 2002, at 8:31:05

Hi Iago....

> Please allow me to put forth that it is my experience that 5mg Ambien + .5mg Xanax is better than 10mg Ambien, so I would suggest 10mg Ambien + .5mg Xanax may be better than 20mg Ambien, so 2x10mg Ambien + 2x.5mg Xanax would 'defeat' even Your Ladyship's worst insomnias... Why not just give it a shot?

("Ladyship???" :-?)

I've tried various linear combinations of Xanax (or Klonopin) and Ambien. 10 mg Ambien + 0.5 mg Xanax isn't even noticeable to me; certainly it's not more effective than 20 mg Ambien. 20 mg Ambien + 1-2 mg Xanax is fairly effective for insomnia (though Klonopin, Tranxene, or Dalmane might be a better choice than Xanax); but I hesitate to try taking benzos on a regular basis for insomnia. The odds that I'd become tolerant are overwhelming, and aside from acute withdrawal symptoms, long-term benzo use can also cause EEG changes that persist for a long time after discontinuing the drugs. I don't think it's worth the risk.

> And if it is URGED that this method does not improve on the old one, then the answer is by pointing out that 10 mg Ambien + a 'certain' (small, take care kid!) amount of alcohol will be much better (as far as fighting insomnia is concerned) than 20 mg Ambien, and another 10mg Ambien after 4 hours (without any alcohol this time) will put to sleep even insomnia itself for the next 4+ hours.

I don't drink, except on those rare occasions when there's decent wine at the table (then I'll sometimes have 1/2 glass). Anyway, surely you know that drinking at night causes rebound insomnia. This strategy has quite a lot of potential to do more harm than good!

> Just thinking aloud... And please don't forget to drink a 'wide-awake' coffee at wake up (or, better still, 5mg d-1-phenyl-2-aminopropane sulfate!).

I'm a little rusty, but shouldn't that be d,1-methylphenethylamine? (I don't do that one either, anyway.)

-elizabeth


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