Posted by Jason911 on March 4, 2002, at 18:45:19
In reply to new help Jill K. thread, posted by JohnX2 on March 4, 2002, at 18:16:52
I'm going to add my little tid-bits to the post that John so wonderfully wrote: Some things in here could maybe help John though,
> Hi Jill,
>
> Sorry if this is long.
>
> Ok, for starters I think we may want to do a little
> bit of interrogation on your history. I hope you
> don't mind. Its easier for people to give suggestions/
> experiences if they can see the trends in your
> treatment and maybe say "hey, I went down that
> path, here's what happened with me".
>
> Please remember. EVERYOBODY is different. It is
> ABSOLUTELY IMPOSSIBLE for anybody to tell you with
> certainty how you will respond to a medication.
> One person's failure on a medication does not
> imply your failure, one persons success does not
> imply your success. What we do have are statistical
> trends on what medicines TEND/LEAN towards working
> the best in a given situation. And to save yourself
> the most pain and suffering it is best to start
> with these routes. No guarantee of success, but
> we want to skew the odds in your favor. An accurate
> diagnosis is the most crucial piece of information.:::: This is absolutely true and the foundation of Psycho-Babble ::::::
>
> Probably you already know this, but maybe other
> people making a lot of posts using up bandwidth
> don't. Anyways, this is why we have such a large
> array of medicines on the counter.
:::::Many of which cause side-effects:::::
>
> So back to summarizing your history (sorry
> if I haven't really stayed on top of your
> earlier posts):
>
> I have:
>
> 1) social phobia/generalized anxiety::::Klonopin. Klonopin. Klonopin. It just works.:::::
>
2) depression (apathy):::::I say give selegiline a try with 500mg phenylalanine daily-just give it a try-no side-effects!!! Except for maybe insomnia from too much stimulation and awareness but if on Klonopin there wold be no worries here:::::
>
3) pain ??
:::::Advil?:::::::
>
4) you mentioned ADHD, anything here?
>
:::::I'm against stims (Adderall, etc.)Wellbutrin maybe?::::::
>
Now were missing some pieces of the Jill K
> puzzle in these areas:
>
> 1) maybe a little more insight into your depression/anxiety
>
> Would you categorize it as Major Depression (feeling
> really empty inside, can't experience pleasure at all,
> think about dying)? Or are you primarily anxious and
> maybe lacking motivation, interest in life, fearful
> of social settings etc?
>
> 2) What were all the medicines you tried in the past
> and what were the outcomes?
>
> Have you tried any of the default SSRIs (Zoloft,Celexa,etc).
> Failures?
>
::::I say try selegiline+phenylalanine before your try the SSRI's. I think the side-effects aren't worth not giving the selegiline+PEA combo a try. I think SSRI's are evil.::::> Tried MAOIs (Nardil is often prescribed for social phobiam
> Parnate, Deprynyl are other options)?::::The one I'd recommend??? Yep. Deprenyl!::::
>
> Ever tried an atypical antipsychotic like
> Zyprexa/Geodon?
>::::As for Zyprexa and friend of mine tried it and got tremors/ticks/involuntary movements in the face--woah.::::::::
>
What are your main concerns regarding starting a new medication? That it will have bad side effects, it won't
> effectively address your depression, etc?
>
::::Selegiline+Phenylalanine is basically side-effect free (major at least) and worth a try if you are worried about side-effects:::::
>
What kind of pain symptoms are you having?:::I believe the "pain" she was talking about was the suffering from her symptoms... i.e. emotional pain::::::
>
> Of all your problems, were are you hurting most?
>
> Sorry for all the questions. But I think they
> really would help us to give you better support.
>
> I'm not an expert in Social Phobia:::::Klonopin. Klonopin. Klonopin. Klonpin. Anxiety wonder pill!!!!!
I have a
> gold card in pain and depression though.
>
> Best wishes.
> John
::::and Jason911::::::
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