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Posted by twinleaf on December 22, 2007, at 14:00:41
In reply to P-doc Update--good one!!!!!Long sorry, posted by rskontos on December 21, 2007, at 20:18:11
This is so wonderful!!! How did you find this pdoc? Was it just chance, or was he recommended as someone who was good with dissociative disorders? I just love it that you went for medication, and instead found someone you can really connect with- and medication has become far less important than the relationship you are building with him. It sounds as though it was an instant "good fit"! Are you going to be seeing him frequently? (I hope)
I'm SO happy for you! This is a priceless Chnristmas present just for you.
Posted by rskontos on December 22, 2007, at 14:13:49
In reply to Re: P-doc Update--good one!!!!!Long sorry » rskontos, posted by twinleaf on December 22, 2007, at 14:00:41
Hi Twinleaf, Actually Realme helped me find him. I was so bad off and emailed her, she says to tell everyone she might be back in the new year but for now she has to stay away. Anyway, I did go in looking for new meds and left that message. And I keep remembering things he has said and it is wow. YOu know I looked in his face and it felt ok. He is a fatherly type. Now my father is not. He validated for me that the trauma I went through was extreme (his word). And I need to be reminded of that cause I thought it just was. And he was amazed I never told anyone. But as you know we must hide stuff at all costs.
I am not sure how often. But my next visit is day after christmas. This is the best Christmas present. He was a instant fit.
I liked how he asked me if I wanted to work with him as he thought working with me would be a good use of his time and a honor. No one ever told me I would be a honor to them. That was nice to hear....
Thanks for being happy for me. My voices in my head are quieter today. And I had a nice dinner and a movie with my kids last night. Hubby is out of town.thanks so much. rsk
Posted by star008 on December 22, 2007, at 14:50:18
In reply to P-doc Update--good one!!!!!Long sorry, posted by rskontos on December 21, 2007, at 20:18:11
I am so happy for you rsk.. I know you have been looking and you lucked out and found a great one. It sounds as though this will be so good for you. I am happy that someone listened and actually understood waht you were saying..That seems so rare..Sometimes I just don't want to try talking anymore with new people.. Keep us updated!!
Posted by twinleaf on December 22, 2007, at 16:44:36
In reply to Re: P-doc Update--good one!!!!!Long sorry » twinleaf, posted by rskontos on December 22, 2007, at 14:13:49
It's so amazing! Just what you needed, but you weren't even looking for a new therapist- or maybe you were. This one is definitely a better fit- he seems to know much more than your other therapist about what you need him to know. But the most important thing is that he is just right for you! And you knew it right away! I guess he did, too. He knew that you came in for medication, and then therapy, and real help for you just started HAPPENING! Well, just amazing!
When we find good fits, we know it right away, and feel better right away, too. He, having a lot of experience, must have known you were a good fit for HIM. Even though he isn't taking new patients, he took you. It seemed like he almost asked to take you- and how wonderful that he said it would be an honour.
Not in any way to throw a wet blanket on things- but is he so old that he's going to retire in a few years? It would still be worth it to see him as often as you can, but it would be good to know so that as you are working with him, you are preparing for that. That's if it's going to happen. It was his not taking new patients that alerted me slightly. I know these therapists vary a lot- some retire at 65, and some still have full practices at 80.
I have a therapist who is a wonderful fit, also, and it is the most priceless thing that can ever happen to us. I really think that a lot of the healing that I feel going on in me is below the level of consciousness- it's because I'm sitting opposite HIM, and looking at his eyes and his face. When you find a person like that, you have just got to hang on as tightly as possible!
How great that Realme found him for you. I look forward to her returning- miss her.
Posted by rskontos on December 22, 2007, at 18:15:18
In reply to The best Christmas present- a 'good fit'!, posted by twinleaf on December 22, 2007, at 16:44:36
Twinleaf, I am so glad you posted. First thanks so much for the reply. yes it is good. He is a good fit. I have been going over the session, and since it was so long )2.5 hrs) there is alot to go over, I keep finding more great things to digest. It is amazing. It is amazing he did get me. Not too many have.
It is ok he is old. Probably what I need. It is ok you are being a wet blanket. I will just take it as it comes. After all I survived this long with this disorder, I can take more it I have too I just hope I am far enough along when it happens and I think that when it comes time he will provide for that. But the other I know is I had lost hope of finding anyone, he came along and my neurologist called with a name of one and she aplogized saying she needed to do research before she passed along a name. So I do have a backup name if I need it. I really trust her, she is my daughter's doctor before mine.
Yeah I still like that honour thing too. To think someone ask if you want to work with them. Amazing.
Yes it is a wonderful thing to have a therapist that is a good fit, priceless is a good way to describe it. It really points out that my hesitation with the first one was valid.
She read your post too. and appreciated it. I hope she comes back. She will when she can. I miss her posts and her words of wisdom. She is a real gem too. Just like you thanks for your posts.
I know you told me that you don't post except when you are doing well so I have been a little worried so I am thrilled you posted. I hope you are doing well too. From the sound of how well you like your therapy it sounds like you are in good hands so I take that it means things are going pretty good.
Again, thanks
rsk
Posted by rskontos on December 22, 2007, at 18:22:13
In reply to Re: P-doc Update--good one!!!!!Long sorry, posted by star008 on December 22, 2007, at 14:50:18
Star, thanks I had some help finding this guy. But he does seem to be a good fit and a good listening. Seems like he can hear between the words too.
I am sorry you don't want to talk to anyone new. I didn't either and I didn't know how much to reveal. Turns out I was 40 minutes late as various voices in the head thought they too knew where his office was, nasty girl yelled at all the other drivers, I am surprised I didn't have an accident or get pulled by the cops, I didnt take his phone number so no way to call him to get more directions or say sorry . He called me and gave me more directions said don't worry come on. And when I got there he was not upset in the least. I was surprised. I mean 40 minutes late!! I thought wow. This guy has lots of patience. I was surprised he said come on meaning he could still see me.
So I think new people can surprise you so don't give up. You never know. Sorry if sound so pollyanna.
But you need to feel better physically first too. Thanks for you support even when you feel not so good. Glad you are back.
rsk
Posted by twinleaf on December 22, 2007, at 20:01:27
In reply to Re: The best Christmas present- a 'good fit'! » twinleaf, posted by rskontos on December 22, 2007, at 18:15:18
Thanks for your reply, rk. For the last two months or so, I have been feeling really happy, comfortable and pleased with things. This is REALLY different from how things used to be. My wonderful T and I have done lots of work about the traumas; he is so attentive, caring, intelligent, and I feel so understood- and I can begin to know now that there is indeed a good life after having all those awful things happen. We are just going on doing that. I almost have the opposite problem now- that things are good, so there's not so much reason to post! Also, while I do want people to know that things can really get better, I don't want to inadvertently appear insensitive to people who are still going through really hard things- as I did myself for many years
I hope this is a Christmas when lots of people can feel hopeful and encouraged about the future. A year ago, I was so depressed I wasn't able to do anything (not one thing) for Christmas, but this year, we are going to celebrate with our son and his wife. They are expecting our first grandchild- a boy- in February. A year ago, I would have been too depressed to feel joy or excitement over even something as wonderful as that, but, thankfully, this year I can. My T left for a two-week vacation yesterday, and it was a very happy temporary good-bye: we were both laughing and happy. over... I'm not sure what. I guess we both knew that we had done really good things together this past year...
Posted by rskontos on December 22, 2007, at 20:27:56
In reply to Re: The best Christmas present- a 'good fit'! » rskontos, posted by twinleaf on December 22, 2007, at 20:01:27
Twinleaf, that is wonderful for you. I am so happy for you. A baby wow.....that is great. I am happy happy for you.....Your first grandchild....wow........
Now I am hopeful for myself in hearing this. thank you for a wonderful gift. In hearing this I am given hope too.
Thank you for your reply. And to see that you were laughing at the separation from you T for a short while. I needed to hear that especially embarking on a new journey with a new t. This means alot to me.
Have a wonderful holiday and tell your son and his wife congrats. Heres to a easy and wonderful quick delivery and a healthy baby!!! May 2008 be better for all us on Babble!
Thank you Twinleaf!!!
rsk
Posted by nfc on December 22, 2007, at 20:36:08
In reply to Re: The best Christmas present- a 'good fit'! » twinleaf, posted by rskontos on December 22, 2007, at 20:27:56
hey rk,
so glad you had a wonderful session w/ the new pdoc. I'm writing u babblemail right now.
nfc
Posted by rskontos on December 22, 2007, at 20:50:08
In reply to Re: The best Christmas present- a 'good fit'!, posted by nfc on December 22, 2007, at 20:36:08
Hey, twinleaf my new p-doc is Menniger's trained and was at there a while, was yours. Realme thought so. Anyway, glad your like yours so much. I hope mine is half as good as yours. he did make me laugh.......that is good in my book.
rsk
Posted by rskontos on December 22, 2007, at 20:50:50
In reply to Re: The best Christmas present- a 'good fit'!, posted by nfc on December 22, 2007, at 20:36:08
thanks nfc, looking forward to the babblemail. rsk
Posted by twinleaf on December 22, 2007, at 20:53:31
In reply to Re: The best Christmas present- a 'good fit'! » twinleaf, posted by rskontos on December 22, 2007, at 20:27:56
Thanks for all your wonderful good wishes, rsk! I just know that you and your new T will find the way for you to be feeling much better before long, and although I think your children are much too young right now (? barely teenagers?), I'm sure there are grandchildren in your future, too! No need to hurry with that, but it does seem like a lovely new experience-all you have to do is love and enjoy them, and your own children have to do all the harder things, as we did with them
I hope you will keep on telling us a lot more about what happens with your new therapist. I will, too, if there is anything which seems interesting enough to post about. A lot of what happens now means the world to me, but may not seem very new or exciting.
Posted by twinleaf on December 22, 2007, at 20:59:25
In reply to Re: The best Christmas present- twinleaf, posted by rskontos on December 22, 2007, at 20:50:08
I think our messages were crossing, but, yes, mine did also train at Menningers', and I am so impressed with what he does. They must get very good training there! And mine is older, too- well, somewhat older- 63, so perhaps they were even there at the same time.
Posted by muffled on December 22, 2007, at 21:18:41
In reply to Re: The best Christmas present- a 'good fit'! » twinleaf, posted by rskontos on December 22, 2007, at 20:27:56
But I doubt they way up here in the great white north!
I'll just have to take my chances with whats up here.
I was looking at ads and stuff, and it don't tell ya squat bout them really.
I dunno how a person is to choose.
Maybe I should put a notice up at my kids school.
"Any parents know a good P-doc ? Mrs. Muffled is in need of one. Call her at ***-****. Thanks." LOL! Many parents proly would say thank goodness! that woman needs help!!! ROFL!!!
But seriously, how does a person find out? I don't think my T knows anyone. I didn't ask directly, but have said in email that I looking for a p-doc. My GP would proly just look at a list of available practitioners and pick one. So not much hope there.
Sucks, cuz only p-docs I seen(two only) is thru "the system", and they not been much good. Well there's one that might have been OK, but my peeps fooled him. One of them is SO good at hiding stuff.
UGH.
I am SO glad you seem to have hit a good one Rsk!and twinleaf too.
M
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Posted by Daisym on December 22, 2007, at 23:00:49
In reply to P-doc Update--good one!!!!!Long sorry, posted by rskontos on December 21, 2007, at 20:18:11
I hear how much hope you have - I'm so glad for you. It is very important that you work with someone you can trust. What a nice way to go into the Holidays and start the New Year.
Best,
Daisy
Posted by rskontos on December 22, 2007, at 23:45:19
In reply to Wahhh!! I want me a Mennigers P-doc!!!, posted by muffled on December 22, 2007, at 21:18:41
I babbled you a response and just wanted to say that I am in Indiana so there is hope. That is somewhat north I'd say. You will find one take heart. We will help. Somehow.
rsk
Posted by rskontos on December 23, 2007, at 0:06:25
In reply to Re: P-doc Update--good one!!!!!Long sorry, posted by Daisym on December 22, 2007, at 23:00:49
Thanks Daisy, yes and I am hoping for the best for me and all Babblers this new year.
I have had a rough Nov and Dec and this lucky break with the p-doc is great. I will see if he does my therapy or if like nfc he might suggest a new therapist for me to see in between sessions with him which wouldnt be bad either. In case, the session with him made me see that my current pastoral therapist is not working and my intuition on that was right.
I hope all is going well with you. Have a Merry Christmas an d a Good New Year. thanks for the response.
rsk
Posted by rskontos on December 23, 2007, at 0:09:18
In reply to Re: The best Christmas present- twinleaf » rskontos, posted by twinleaf on December 22, 2007, at 20:59:25
I agree. I would say my new doc is around that age. I keep remembering things he said and am amazed. rsk
Posted by seldomseen on December 23, 2007, at 7:09:02
In reply to Re: P-doc Update--good one!!!!!Long sorry » twinleaf, posted by rskontos on December 22, 2007, at 14:13:49
I want just want to reiterate what everyone else said - having a good doc is better than gold for your recovery and I'm very happy for you.
Something you said really resonated with me
"He validated for me that the trauma I went through was extreme (his word). And I need to be reminded of that cause I thought it just was. And he was amazed I never told anyone. But as you know we must hide stuff at all costs."
I know the trauma we endured was bad, but sometimes I think keeping it a secret is worse.
Happy holidays
Seldom.
Posted by I need a hug on December 23, 2007, at 8:55:20
In reply to Re: The best Christmas present- twinleaf » twinleaf, posted by rskontos on December 23, 2007, at 0:09:18
RSK,
I just wanted to wish you and your family a very Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year! I have so much I want to say to you but I'll end up writing a book. Hey...if I'm crazy enough to fly somewhere to see my Pdoc, maybe I'll fly to Indiana to see you. LOL Actually, depending on where you are I might very well be within driving distance. Boy, do I need a vacation!! It's a good thing I see my T on Friday. I hope your next appt. is as good, if not better, than your first. I can't really explain it but I just have this good feeling that everything is going to start falling into place for you. I think it's because your first meeting was so productive and that's a good indicator of what is to come. You seem less anxious. You said the voices and the switching have eased up a bit. Maybe now you are finally ready to look into the darkness of your past so that you can begin to see what a bright, bright future you still have ahead of you. This is my Christmas wish for you, my friend. I hope you have a future so bright you have to wear sunglasses at night! Do you remember that song? I hated it. Was it you that liked to play, "Name That Tune?" If it was, I used to love that show. Oh God, I haven't been able to sleep and I can't think straight and I'm starting to act really goofy. Maybe if my meds ever kick in I can just sleep through Christmas this year. I'm keeping it low-keyed this year anyway. I'm spending the day with my sister and her husband. BTW, he's from Anderson IN. Please let me know how your next session goes. I've done it again. I've wtitten another f@#&ing book!!! HUGS
Posted by rskontos on December 23, 2007, at 9:43:17
In reply to Re: P-doc Update--good one!!!!!Long sorry » rskontos, posted by seldomseen on December 23, 2007, at 7:09:02
Seldon, so true. Keeping the secret is extremely costly. He also pointed out how many I had trying to care for me but because I was trying to keep everything hidden and to "Protect my image of mother for myself" I couldn't let anyone get close I pushed them, those trying to care for me away and I still do. He pointed this out.
This amazed me. He also pointed out that my mother's death should have been a relief for me given the trauma yet it wasnt. It was more trauma. I went into hiding when she did. He said that was usual given that it should have freed me. But it didnt. He thought that was amazing. I never thought of it this way. How could I. And I was still hiding everything. Yes seldom it is worse. I didnt understand how bad or how to let go.Thanks for being happy. I am amazed that he was so close and I never knew it.
rsk
Posted by rskontos on December 23, 2007, at 9:53:01
In reply to Re: The best Christmas present, posted by I need a hug on December 23, 2007, at 8:55:20
Hugs dont apologize I love to read books. I am an avid reader. I am awed you care so much.........aw shucks I will get a big head from all this. I am going to print all this out and put in my journal. some good stuff here for when I get down.
I am less anxious and unless this is an alter, (some days I am not sure who is the real me but maybe he can help with that), I did come home and find I had bought something on Thurs. from ebay that adult me would not buy. And what do you say to an ebayer oh I didn't buy that a part of me, the teen part did. No luckily it was too expensive.
I don't remember the song but if it was doing my teen years well they are blur in dissociation and I am able to access those memories yet. Maybe in the future I will.
We are just having a small family low key holiday this year, my favorite. Cuz if anyone comes over I am the slave. My daughter is helping me cook since she wants a home cooked dinner and I was going to buy it from Honeybaked Hams.
Anderson is not far from me about 45 minutes I think. Maybe less. I will let you know. I liked Name that Tune but I sucked at it.
I think things will get better. I am hopeful because new doc was. And I want to be. I am trying to sort things out and trying to make sense of it all. Thanks for the well wishes.
You have a great Christmas too.
If you do decide to fly............Take care my friend. Like it says in It is A Wonderful LIfe,
He who has Friends Has Riches. Something Like that.
I feel very rich today.......rsk
Posted by Wittgenstein on December 23, 2007, at 10:39:36
In reply to Re: The best Christmas present- a 'good fit'! » twinleaf, posted by rskontos on December 22, 2007, at 18:15:18
Rskontos, this is wonderful wonderful news - finally you have someone who is dedicated and who understands - and even more he wants to help you, feels honoured to do so. That's beautiful and brings me a big warm smile. This is exactly what you needed and deserve. I'm so happy for you. I really hope this makes a big difference to your life, to your future.
He's taken you on, not because he has to, not even because he was looking for new patients - you're special, you connect, you're unique and you can work together. He sounds like someone who loves his job and cares deeply about his patients/clients. How kind of RealMe to find this wonderful therapist for you. I don't think
I think it's a good gesture to charge by the month (my therapist does the same and it does show trust). He saw you for an extended amount of time - showing flexibility and putting his clients first - I'm glad you get to see him again soon, usually therapists take a break over Christmas. There are some really good therapists out there and it looks like you've just found a very special one.
I felt really lucky to find my therapist - I'd had a bad experience with the first person I'd seen and it wouldn't have got anywhere with her (would have just caused harm, which it did) - so I did my own search, didn't have any experience or any advice and just got lucky - basically went through the psychoanalytic psychotherapy listing and selected someone who didn't live too too far away, phoned very nervous and he saw me two days later.
Anyway, congratulations and happy Christmas!
Witti
Posted by rskontos on December 23, 2007, at 11:31:24
In reply to Re: The best Christmas present- a 'good fit'! » rskontos, posted by Wittgenstein on December 23, 2007, at 10:39:36
Thanks Witti, I am glad too and as I reflect on the session I find so much to think about and take in. It is remarkable that he got so many insights about my behavior and how I felt and how I react that my other therapist never did. He also said I would get well with the right kind of work. But his biggest concern was that the one I was seeing was unfortunately not going to be able to do that for me and I agree. There is a mechanism inside that starts going off that I hear from when I know deep down something wont work. And the other therapist kept saying and doing things that set off so much unstability in me. I mean I wasnt exactly balanced when I went to her but I wasnt switching all the time either. I switch when feeling threatened or anxious and I was getting to feel both all the time. A Friends T therapist said it should happen in the context of therapy not spill out all the time in life. And I was spilling out in life not therapy. so my hope is I will do this in therapy and not so much in life. Hopefully he can get them out and deal with them and life can be left alone for the most part. That is what I think is suppose to happen.
He also made me realize so many things in my life after my marriage was also trauma that induce the dissocation too and that must be dealt with too. But I still have hope.
I am a mess but a mess he thinks that can be fixed and that is a wonderful present for Christmas because I was at the point I thought I couldn't be. Now I might even be able to decide what I can do with the rest of my life. You know what to do now that I can finally grow up.
Thank Witti. It is a journey but like you told me earlier in another thread one that is worth going on.
rsk
Ps....Have a Merry Christmas yourself... How are you doing? I hope you are doing well......Thanks so much for your reply.
Posted by Wittgenstein on December 23, 2007, at 12:58:40
In reply to Re: The best Christmas present- a 'good fit'! » Wittgenstein, posted by rskontos on December 23, 2007, at 11:31:24
I just realised there was an 'I don't think' that shouldn't have been in my last post - bad editing on my part.
It's kind of scary to think of the situation it now appears you were in before you met your new T. What magic it must feel for him to tell you that he can help you - 'fix' you. The word 'fixed' sits a bit uncomfortable with me - not really sure what a 'fixed' me would feel like - but I know what you mean, to be better, for life to be much easier - to move on.
I hope that your 'peeps' become more contained outside the sessions and their energy can be focused into the therapeutic space. As for the later traumas - does this come as a surprise? How does it feel for this to be recognised for the first time?
I'm doing ok thanks, taking my dog for walks in the woods, enjoying the snow/ice. In honesty I'm a bit down - trying to hold it together though and will be fine - missing T and finding Christmas/New Year triggering.
Good luck on the 26th and best wishes for a lovely Christmas.
Witti
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