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Posted by crazychickuk on December 10, 2004, at 10:53:06
Hi,
Just needed some advice help experiences plse..
Ive had my fair share with antidepressants over the past 4 yrs, i had to give up remeron after 2 yrs as they changed the form from tablet to soltab here i nthe uk and i couldnt get hold of any of the tablet form, and the soltab was horrible i was having nightmares it was terrible, so the doctor decided to try dothaipan, i only gave it a week because i didnt liek the affects of it was causing my hrt to flutter badly and i didnt liek the affects it had on my mind, so i stopped it 3 mnths later i become very very depressed so i started up on effexor very low dose of half a 37.5mg pill but i was so suicidal and down and panicky physciatrist tld me to come of it only after 4 days and do cbt alone, said that all meds i have been on just make me worse and to give just cbt ago.
Its been 3 weeks now, i still have my crying days, cant handle bad things, or to much stress etc, and i am so trying cbt but i feel kind of weird, The past 3 days i feel excited, i feel as if i am on effexor or dothiapin that high feeling jaw clenching, anxious feeling, i am not on nothing though, is this the anxiety trying to come forward and say no you are not getting better, i am trying so hard to change this neg thought and be positve and calm, but i feel like i am on drugs and feel kind of scared.
Neg thoughts i am getting are :-
Ive been spiked!!
I am taking something and i cant remember!!
My brain is damaged so badly that this is what its gonna be like!!
O my god i am going to lose my mind!!
I cant handle this, this isnt working!!Please can someone help me change these thoughts into postive and maybe give me an answer as to why i feel like i am on drugs when i am not!! ?
Thankyou i await any responses ..
Posted by crazychickuk on December 10, 2004, at 10:58:52
In reply to Need some advice plse, posted by crazychickuk on December 10, 2004, at 10:53:06
Hi, just had to repost this message as i missed alot..
Just needed some advice help experiences plse..
Diagnosed with anxiety and depression
Ive had my fair share with antidepressants over the past 4 yrs, i had to give up remeron after 2 yrs as they changed the form from tablet to soltab here i nthe uk and i couldnt get hold of any of the tablet form, and the soltab was horrible i was having nightmares it was terrible, so the doctor decided to try dothaipan, i only gave it a week because i didnt liek the affects of it was causing my hrt to flutter badly and i didnt liek the affects it had on my mind, so i stopped it 3 mnths later i become very very depressed so i started up on effexor very low dose of half a 37.5mg pill but i was so suicidal and down and panicky physciatrist tld me to come of it only after 4 days and do cbt alone, said that all meds i have been on just make me worse and to give just cbt ago.
Its been 3 weeks now, i still have my crying days, cant handle bad things, or to much stress etc, and i am so trying cbt but i feel kind of weird, The past 3 days i feel excited, i feel as if i am on effexor or dothiapin that high feeling jaw clenching, anxious feeling, i am not on nothing though, is this the anxiety trying to come forward and say no you are not getting better, i am trying so hard to change this neg thought and be positve and calm, but i feel like i am on drugs and feel kind of scared.
Neg thoughts i am getting are :-
Ive been spiked!!
I am taking something and i cant remember!!
My brain is damaged so badly that this is what its gonna be like!!
O my god i am going to lose my mind!!
I cant handle this, this isnt working!!Feels like i am going to have some kind of fit!! (had this before nothing wrong with me)
Best not have a drink, might make me feel worse!!
Best not have anythign to eat might make me feel worse!!
Maybe its the food and drinks i have, have affected me to feel this way!!
Ive defo been misdiagnosed!!(i havent i know been evalued by many proffesionals)
This cbt isnt going to work just like all the meds i have been on!!
Please can someone help me change these thoughts into postive and maybe give me an answer as to why i feel like i am on drugs when i am not!! ?Thankyou i await any responses ..
Posted by memoryleaves on December 10, 2004, at 11:55:55
In reply to Re: Need some advice plse -- OH MISSED SOMETHINGS, posted by crazychickuk on December 10, 2004, at 10:58:52
I'm sorry you are going through this. I can relate, but unfortunately I'm not in the most helpful state of mind at the moment. I just felt bad for you and I know what it's like to feel so scared and confused and be anxiously awaiting feedback. So, that's why I'm posting even though I'm not at all helpful.
I'm not making any sense.
Just know you're not alone and good healing thoughts are being sent your way until someone truly helpful comes along to respond to your post.
Memory
Posted by Miss Honeychurch on December 10, 2004, at 13:16:10
In reply to Need some advice plse, posted by crazychickuk on December 10, 2004, at 10:53:06
Hi Crazychick,
I as well was diagnosed over a year ago with depression and anxiey. I can empathize with what you're going through. I however have no experience with medication, so I can't help you on that front. But I've mainly conquered my anxiety and depression through CBT.
I have a feeling maybe you are anxious for having thse feeling s of losing control? That you are brain damaged? That you SHOULD not feel that way? STOP THE SHOULDS! Tell yourself there is nothing wrong at all for having the irrational thoughts you are having. That you re only human and will have these thoughts. Nowhere is it written in stone that you SHOULDN"T feel this way.
Also, as you may know, in CBT, language is a big deal, especially dramatic language. INstead of saying I CAN'T STAND THIS, repharse it as "I don't really like feeling this way, but it is hardly the end of the world. I will be alive tomorrow, so I CAN of course stand it."
In the beginning when I first started disputing my irrational thoughts, I became VERY anxious - my heart would race and I would get dizzy. I took this to mean that my body and mind did not like my new way of thinking so logically and was letting me know it's displeasure. After all, it's easier to think the way you've thought all your life, regardless of how irrational. A new way of thinking is HARD.
It has taken me over a year to finally be comfortable with my new way of thinking. I think what you're going through is completely normal. ANd again, dn't create more anxiety for yourself by thinking you SHOULD NOT be experiencing this. I firmly believe it's part of getting better.
What do you think?
Posted by crazychickuk on December 10, 2004, at 16:56:13
In reply to Re: Need some advice plse, posted by Miss Honeychurch on December 10, 2004, at 13:16:10
Thankyou for that gr8 post,
I am finding it very difficult to do this cbt, i mean today i was so hyper i couldnt calm down, i was overly excited, i couldnt think what i was thinking about i couldnt sit down long enough or relax long enough to beable to think what i was thinking so i could change that thought, i was so buisy tryign to keep myself buisy cus i couldnt sit around and i mean i lashed out at my daughter cus she spilt her drink on my clean bed which i washed for the second time this wee as she has chocolate on it the other day and now red squash so i really lashed out at her and frightened myself, it r eally feels like i am on drugs its so weird, i was so depressed last week i could really see my self commiting suicide was that bad and today wtf? i am sure i have bp but i am told no i dont... i dont understand it i so dont understand it !! it so felt like i was on drugs my bottom lip w as trembling, i couldnt think what i was thinking about? my face looked straight and my pupils were huge, i was clenching my jaw and everything well strange..
AND before this came onto me today i was actually away with my cbt i was thinking negativly as my broadband got cut off, i had to find money to pay that my catolouge statement came my fone bill needs to be paid AND my owe debt company money who was p eed off with me cus i cant pay them for 2 weeks , so i was doing my cbt to change these neg thoughts to positive ones and then my mum turn up and thats when my anxiety kicked off .. i dont udnerstand it, i just need this explaining to me, i found my therapist but she didnt have an answer for me, she just said keep onto my cbt..Any imput at all?
Thanks
Posted by fires on December 10, 2004, at 20:48:49
In reply to Need some advice plse, posted by crazychickuk on December 10, 2004, at 10:53:06
I'm wondering if you have had a good physical workup, as physical problems can cause the symptoms you mentioned.
Probable B 12 deficency, definite Orthostatic Intolerance, and probable sleep apnea are just a few of the abnormalities I have been Dxed with since I became a "somatizer."
Posted by crazychickuk on December 10, 2004, at 20:49:40
In reply to Re: Need some advice plse » crazychickuk, posted by fires on December 10, 2004, at 20:48:49
Posted by fires on December 10, 2004, at 23:41:49
In reply to Need some advice plse, posted by crazychickuk on December 10, 2004, at 10:53:06
Here are some good links and info.:
POTS (a type of OI):
Note from link that symptoms can include: tachycardia, palpitations, anxiety, cognitive impairment, shortness of breath,...
http://www.potsplace.com/symptoms.htm
B 12 deficeincy:"Vitamin B12 deficiency also has been linked to psychiatric disorders, including impaired memory, irritability, depression, dementia and, rarely, psychosis."
Source: http://www.aafp.org/afp/20030301/979.html
Sleep apnea:
"Symptoms of sleep apnea may include restless sleep, loud, heavy snoring (often interrupted by silence and then gasps), falling asleep while driving and/or during the day (at work, watching TV, etc.), morning headaches, loss of energy, trouble concentrating, irritability, forgetfulness, mood or behavior changes, anxiety or depression, obesity, and decreased interest in sex."Source: http://www.ninds.nih.gov/disorders/sleep_apnea/sleep_apnea.htm
Good Luck
Posted by crazychickuk on December 11, 2004, at 4:16:46
In reply to Re: Need some advice plse, posted by fires on December 10, 2004, at 23:41:49
Posted by fires on December 11, 2004, at 12:07:26
In reply to Re:none of that applies to me, but thanks though (nm), posted by crazychickuk on December 11, 2004, at 4:16:46
I'm glad that an MD has ruled them out for you. (Right?) They are not fun.
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